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Whether anyone discusses or not, its quite obvious that discussion is not the primary motive of that thread, and rtcvb said that he is posting it so that someone else may find them useful. Its more like an update / news thread, like lostwolfe's LP thread.

The individual points raised in that thread are too many and varied to discuss at length about, and neither rtcvb nor anyone discussing against him wants to concede that they are wrong. The difference though is that to me, most of the infowars stuff is what is wrong most of the time.

People may still be reading it and finding the thread useful and we can't tell from mere lack of posts. Anyways, I don't see much of a problem in letting it continue, since the little discussion there is keeps to itself.
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zeogold: You say this, yet there are multiple instances of you driving the same point even when proven wrong. You don't bother to engage in debate and further the idea, you just try to push the "I'm right because I say so and that's all I want to hear" stance.
*sigh* I've said multiple times for example that fluoride and fluoridation is bad. Nevermind I reference CDC, EPA and Wikipedia saying it's a toxic poison. Nevermind i went the effort and looked up the other references of fluoridation which also said they were effectively toxic. My 'stance' doesn't take away from the facts.

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zeogold: But these people are posting individual links and giving explanations of why the subject is interesting, also engaging in healthy discussions on them, not just slamming posts with humongous amounts of links, ignoring what everybody says, then doing it again and again.
It's current events, and the short annotations should be enough to denote if you're interested, or if you are following along with the video the links will be there so you don't have to look nearly as hard to find them. Most of the links are articles and news afterall.
Post edited November 28, 2016 by rtcvb32
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Shadowstalker16: Whether anyone discusses or not, its quite obvious that discussion is not the primary motive of that thread, and rtcvb said that he is posting it so that someone else may find them useful. Its more like an update / news thread, like lostwolfe's LP thread.

The individual points raised in that thread are too many and varied to discuss at length about, and neither rtcvb nor anyone discussing against him wants to concede that they are wrong. The difference though is that to me, most of the infowars stuff is what is wrong most of the time.

People may still be reading it and finding the thread useful and we can't tell from mere lack of posts. Anyways, I don't see much of a problem in letting it continue, since the little discussion there is keeps to itself.
I'm not familiar with lostwolfe's LP thread but could one distinguish that thread on the basis the lostwolfe doesn't post every day and his thread is about games?

I wouldn't have raised this point of this was a website about DRM free politics.
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rtcvb32: Hmmm.. I suppose I could encrypt the names...

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What? R2-D2 and C-3PO too? I could have never imagined... Then again, 3PO always raised his arm in a way that could have been seen as "heiling"...
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Shadowstalker16: People may still be reading it and finding the thread useful and we can't tell from mere lack of posts. Anyways, I don't see much of a problem in letting it continue, since the little discussion there is keeps to itself.
The problem is this- either someone has to keep waisting their time disproving the shit rtcvb posts (which is not hard, but is time-consuming), or we allow the forum to become a tool to propagate lies and slander. It's that simple.
Post edited November 28, 2016 by Breja
Obviously people can post what they want and completely ignore this but I'd personally appreciate it if people just ignored and didn't engage with rtcvb32 in this thread.

If you'd like to have a discussion with him, he does, after all, have is very own thread in these forums :).
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timppu: I presume Starmaker just didn't want to take sides, hence so many names. :)
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Starmaker: I absoutely do take sides, but this is not about the sides. These two are human trash. I won't piss on them if they were on fire, regardless of their political affiliation.

Also, the list is by no means exhaustive. Obviously, scammers belong on it, ciomalau belongs on it, the dipshit who harasses tinyE belongs on it, etc. There was a user who kept posting lists of games, just lists without an end in sight (they're currently inactive so I won't call them out). Exclusion != endorsement.

Infowars on the other hand is a well-maintained political thread. If you don't like it exists, go ahead and petition GOG for a ban on political content, citing it as an example of what specifically you want to prevent in the future. But it is not low or negative effort trash.
So lies and slander = ok and spamming = well maintained, but typin weirdly = human trash? Yeah, ok. >call the Arkham Asylum about an apparent escaped patient<
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Shadowstalker16: Whether anyone discusses or not, its quite obvious that discussion is not the primary motive of that thread, and rtcvb said that he is posting it so that someone else may find them useful. Its more like an update / news thread, like lostwolfe's LP thread.

The individual points raised in that thread are too many and varied to discuss at length about, and neither rtcvb nor anyone discussing against him wants to concede that they are wrong. The difference though is that to me, most of the infowars stuff is what is wrong most of the time.

People may still be reading it and finding the thread useful and we can't tell from mere lack of posts. Anyways, I don't see much of a problem in letting it continue, since the little discussion there is keeps to itself.
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htown1980: I'm not familiar with lostwolfe's LP thread but could one distinguish that thread on the basis the lostwolfe doesn't post every day and his thread is about games?

I wouldn't have raised this point of this was a website about DRM free politics.
He posts whenever he uploads a new video so semi regularly, but it is about gaming, yes. Although the question whether this forum is purely for gaming seems to be a matter of opinion, and there have been political discussions and threads in the past.
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Shadowstalker16: People may still be reading it and finding the thread useful and we can't tell from mere lack of posts. Anyways, I don't see much of a problem in letting it continue, since the little discussion there is keeps to itself.
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Breja: The problem is this- either someone has to keep waisting their time disproving the shit rtcvb posts (which is not hard, but is time-consuming), or we allow the forum to become a tool to propagate lies and slander. It's that simple.
Not the forum, but only that thread. Its is his opinion too so he isn't obligated to concede any rebuttals. The claims in the posts being untrue is not very uncommon, seeing that everyone on this forum and everyone in the world probably has some unreasonable beliefs and posts them once in a while, and they may be seen as lies or slander by others. So posting counter arguments needn't do any good, neither do I think any place on the internet has standards so high that conspiracy is banned.
Post edited November 28, 2016 by Shadowstalker16
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htown1980: Obviously people can post what they want and completely ignore this but I'd personally appreciate it if people just ignored and didn't engage with rtcvb32 in this thread.

If you'd like to have a discussion with him, he does, after all, have is very own thread in these forums :).
This is kinda based on a question of which principle one follows. If you follow the idea that further isolating people will make them even worse, then taking a beef from one thread to the others on the forum is bad.
On the other hand, if you believe that giving people a time out or not-talking-to-you might help them, then it is good.

I generally think beefs from a thread should be kept within it, otherwise it prevents the person from being constructive outside the controversial thread. eg, people pestering dtgreene based on his posts made in some other thread or rctvb being pestered about the infowars thread.
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Shadowstalker16: I generally think beefs from a thread should be kept within it, otherwise it prevents the person from being constructive outside the controversial thread. eg, people pestering dtgreene based on his posts made in some other thread or rctvb being pestered about the infowars thread.
And derailing conversations in topics unrelated or the like. Could be quite annoying, not just for the topics but threads that are suppose to be on other topics.
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timppu: What? R2-D2 and C-3PO too? I could have never imagined... Then again, 3PO always raised his arm in a way that could have been seen as "heiling"...
The gator thread has been going on for ages. It is not inconceivable that there are a number of Infowars fans as well.
I have defended and will continue to defend his infowars thread on the basis of free speech.
rtcvb32 is well aware of what I think of alex jones and infowars.

the thread is not spam
his thread is a infowars "safespace'
as long as rtcvb32 keeps his infowars crap to his infowars thread.
I dont care.

Dont treat him like a moron if he comes to your thread with on topic advice (as I saw a certain someone do) , even the best of us can be fooled even by a fraud like alex jones.

leave his thread be and leave him be.
Of course it's spam.

It's the perfect example of "It takes longer to disprove a lie than it does to make one up", which is the very foundation Infowars itself is built upon. By the time people have gathered the evidence to disprove 10 of your claims, you're ready with your next episode and 100 more outrageous claims, and its accompanying link dump by rt.

I do consider it spam, and I do consider the practice harmful. It defeats the truth by burying it in a mountain of lies.
The usual suspects seem to have cropped up to "demand" the removal of another thread they don't like. Beware. If we go down that slippery path then maybe the threads you feel dear may be deleted because others think they are trash.

I've checked out the thread. Clicked a number of articles linked. I find most a bit too speculative for my tastes (read as facts-lite), but hey, to each his own. I'd say calling the totality of the thread "lies and slander" rather over the top. Just like all the "entitled" people calling anyone who voted for Trump sexist, racist and xenophobic Nazis. Seems too many people want to judge others, remove people posts and threads so they can create their lonely "safe space" of people who just want to agree with them all the time.
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htown1980: ...
I appreciate the thought but honestly, it's not worth the effort. As a fellow "feminist gamer", Just let rtcvb32 have his space where he can indulge in as many conspiracy/xenophobic/misogynist/etc. theories as he likes. I'm sure there are other things you can focus your energy on, like helping others with tech issues, or Secret Santa.

As timppu says, at least rtcvb32 has had the common decency to keep it to his infowars thread. If you don't like it, you don't have to pay attention to it.
Post edited November 28, 2016 by rampancy