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I watched Blade Runner (the Director's Cut because I heard the narration in the Theatrical Cut was awful) recently and hated it. The movie tried to be artsy with its presentation which might have been fine by me 20 years ago, but the movie just felt like a jumbled mess I was forced to appreciate. Hell, I liked Chinatown back then. But in all its attempts to be thought provoking, Deckard never became an interesting character, by the time they introduced Rachael I was bored out my skull. The chase between Roy and Deckard was too fluffy for me to actually give a crap about what Roy was really on about: living. The only redeeming character was Gaff.

You know, here's a thought: if you have a bunch of Replicants where they're not supposed to be, how about you let people know?! So they wouldn't do stupid shit like take them in?
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BoxOfSnoo: Captain America: Civil War
The comic series was amazing. It was very clever in showing two sides to a very challenging story. The movie was uninspiring and small.
Just watched this since it went on Netflix this week.

There were actually a few things I liked about it, but yeah, in sum it was underwhelming.
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Stevedog13: - Is it Bulletproof?
- Anything but a straight shot.

So in other words it's only "bulletproof" when no one is actually shooting AT you? This is beyond absurd! who designs body armor that doesn't actually protect you from a direct attack? By this rationale my leather jacket is "bulletproof" so long as nobody shoots at me.

Then the very next line in this same scene:

- Why didn't they put it into production?
- Bean counters didn't think a soldier's life was worth 300 grand.

$300,000 and it's not even bulletproof? Where did all that money go? Yeah, those stupid bean counters picked the $600 body armor that actually is bulletproof (even when hit with a direct shot) over the $300,000 body armor that's not; how foolish of them!

Once I saw through the lazy writing of this scene the whole move began to fall apart.
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hedwards: No body armor is bullet proof when you take a direct hit. The necessary materials haven't been invented yet to make it happen. I have to laud the writers for the more accurate portrayal of body armor. If you take a direct hit in body armor, you might not have the bullet puncturing you, but there's a good chance that there'll be enough force left to scramble your internal organs enough to be fatal. However, body armor that can deflect a bullet is much more reasonable.

It also happens to make for a somewhat more interesting movie than if the main character spends his whole time being impervious to bullets, there's some actual risk if he gets hit.
Body armor is bulletproof, that's the whole point. The materials have been around for quite a while, KEVLAR was first made over a half century ago. There is also Vectran, Titanium and Alumina Ceramics. They work by stopping the projectile and dissipating the force of impact over a wider area. You still feel the impact (it's bullet proof not physics proof) and there will be bruising but it'll be nowhere near a lethal blow. To test body armor it is placed on a dummy that's basically made of clay. They then fire rounds at the armor, both direct shots and at various angles, then measure how deep the dent in the clay is behind the point of impact. If that dent is too deep then the armor fails the test. Having armor that merely deflects incoming fire is not that practical. It works on vehicles because you can have large panels that all face the same direction, usually upwards, as most incoming fire is going to be more or less parallel with the ground. On armor that is to be worn this becomes much less effective. As a person is running, jumping, crouching or engaging in any other maneuvers the angles of the suit are changing. There is no way to realistically design the angles to protect equally in all positions, but even if you could what good would that really do? If a bullet hits armor and gets deflected where does it go? It's going to follow along the surface of the armor until it reaches an edge, and at the edge of chest plate armor you find arms, legs and a head. This is why real body armor focuses in absorption and dissipation rather than deflection.
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Stevedog13: - Is it Bulletproof?
- Anything but a straight shot.

So in other words it's only "bulletproof" when no one is actually shooting AT you? This is beyond absurd! who designs body armor that doesn't actually protect you from a direct attack? By this rationale my leather jacket is "bulletproof" so long as nobody shoots at me.

Then the very next line in this same scene:

- Why didn't they put it into production?
- Bean counters didn't think a soldier's life was worth 300 grand.

$300,000 and it's not even bulletproof? Where did all that money go? Yeah, those stupid bean counters picked the $600 body armor that actually is bulletproof (even when hit with a direct shot) over the $300,000 body armor that's not; how foolish of them!

Once I saw through the lazy writing of this scene the whole move began to fall apart.
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hedwards: No body armor is bullet proof when you take a direct hit. The necessary materials haven't been invented yet to make it happen. I have to laud the writers for the more accurate portrayal of body armor. If you take a direct hit in body armor, you might not have the bullet puncturing you, but there's a good chance that there'll be enough force left to scramble your internal organs enough to be fatal. However, body armor that can deflect a bullet is much more reasonable.

It also happens to make for a somewhat more interesting movie than if the main character spends his whole time being impervious to bullets, there's some actual risk if he gets hit.
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RWarehall: Another thing that has ruined supposedly good movies for me is the "surprise" or "gotcha" endings. Where some guy you trust is suddenly the secret mastermind or things aren't what they seem. Well thought out and it doesn't bother me too much, but most of the time, if you go back and replay the events of the movie, the "gotcha" doesn't make a whole lotta sense. All too often, the "secret big bad guy" had the hero alone in a situation they could have just shot him in the back or fulfilled his evil deed without needing to set up the hero for the fall.

I remember people saying great things about the movie "The Game" with Michael Douglas and Sean Penn, but after the big surprise reveal, if you go back in the movie knowing what was revealed in the end, the events make no sense. All variables were under control, my ass. No wonder I was surprised.
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hedwards: That's the studio executives. They saw how many people were going back to watch the sixth sense multiple times to try and see what pipe was laid for the ending and the resulting box office numbers that they wanted to repeat it.

Unfortunately, it doesn't always work. Some movies lend themselves to that naturally and others don't. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls is a good example of that not working. They didn't lay enough pipe to make the ending work. It was a cheap shot that pretty much ruined a decent movie. And since it comes at the end, that's the part that most people forget.

The people whining about the refrigerator and the rest of the movie need to GTFO as they clearly didn't watch any of the other films. The refrigerator thing is hardly less realistic than Indie managing to ride a submarine for thousands of miles without any food or water, and that's assuming that the sub didn't go underwater at any point in the journey. Or perhaps people regulalry rip hearts out of people's chests with their bare hands.
Dragon Armor is getting there to take direct hits and no go through, from what they are saying.
Interstellar
I wouldn't call this a particulary bad movie, but after all the paraise and talk about science accuracy in this film...
Totall bull, if you ask me. Ice clouds, that drop their pieces when shattle passes by. Merphy's law that makes space ship rotate exactly arund axis of symmetry. Some weird dimension that protagonist gets into by passing event horizon. Seriously?! This kind of stuff is not unusual in Star Trek or Doctor Who, but call this hard science fiction?
But much worse is that in addition to science the logic is also completely fucked up. A plague destroys crops. Well, ok. But why the hell the solution for this is to go to another planet? Why are you so sure that plague won't follow humans? And if there is a way to sterilize environment on the ships, than why don't you just make a closed biosphere under some plastic dome? How it is different form building one in space?
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RWarehall: We've all watched movies we've not liked, but every once in awhile, there is a movie that friends have recommended and/or you've read a few reviews which claim it's good combined with trailers which you thought looked interesting, but then you watch it and think it's particularly trash...

The one I just watched was Panic Room and they are apparently remaking it.
76% critics positive on Rotten Tomatoes although only 63% from the audi
Keep in mind RT score is just a compilation of binary up/downs, not the relative/average strength of those votes. So it could've gotten a a few narrow thumbs ups for the handful of pretty good performances in what is definitely, in sum, a mediocre bunch of 'meh.

I saw it in the theater (2nd run, so only like $2) and the only thing I remember is that Whitaker was good, and Dwight Yoakam was ok but certainly not up to his performance in Sling Blade. Foster did okay with weak material, but nowhere in her most memorable/watchable performances (not her fault other than agreeing to be in it).

Wasn't that Whitaker's first turn as a villain? Something of a warmup for Last King of Scotland, or maybe moreso the Shield, perhaps?

Could be that shift was what kept critics more inclined to value that piece of an overall useless film. Not the worst thing I ever saw, though.

You're right that the plot (also the dialogue) was pretty underwhelming.
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Stevedog13: Body armor is bulletproof, that's the whole point. The materials have been around for quite a while, KEVLAR was first made over a half century ago. There is also Vectran, Titanium and Alumina Ceramics. They work by stopping the projectile and dissipating the force of impact over a wider area. You still feel the impact (it's bullet proof not physics proof) and there will be bruising but it'll be nowhere near a lethal blow. To test body armor it is placed on a dummy that's basically made of clay. They then fire rounds at the armor, both direct shots and at various angles, then measure how deep the dent in the clay is behind the point of impact. If that dent is too deep then the armor fails the test. Having armor that merely deflects incoming fire is not that practical. It works on vehicles because you can have large panels that all face the same direction, usually upwards, as most incoming fire is going to be more or less parallel with the ground. On armor that is to be worn this becomes much less effective. As a person is running, jumping, crouching or engaging in any other maneuvers the angles of the suit are changing. There is no way to realistically design the angles to protect equally in all positions, but even if you could what good would that really do? If a bullet hits armor and gets deflected where does it go? It's going to follow along the surface of the armor until it reaches an edge, and at the edge of chest plate armor you find arms, legs and a head. This is why real body armor focuses in absorption and dissipation rather than deflection.
Sigh a lot of misinformation in this post.

No, body armor is not bulletproof. People can and do get killed in spite of wearing body armor even in cases where the bullet hits the armor. There's a reason why it's refered to as things like body armor and kevlar vests rather than bulletproof, because it's not.

Yes, they're focusing on dissipation, because they're wanting to provide some protection in cases where the wearer is more or less hit dead on. But, that doesn't mean that bullets don't get deflected and eat up material as they go. Hell, bullets regularly get deflected by bones when they do get into the body.

Also, there's a difference between a ricochet and deflection.
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HereForTheBeer: Gotta ditto several of those listed above.

I'll add Mystic River. Ugh.

It makes sense. A straight shot meaning something really close to 90 degrees to the surface being hit. But a shot hitting at something like 45 degrees will either ricochet off without piercing the armor, or the armor is effectively thicker when hitting at an angle. Tank armor has worked on that principal for a very long time, allowing for the armor to have an effective capability of, say, 8 inches of steel while being something like 5 or 6 inches of actual thickness. That's why the front of modern tanks are usually angled - mostly for the effective increase in steel thickness, but there's also the potential for a ricochet or glancing shot. Keep in mind that Batman's armor has a lot of angles to it, so it's working on similar ideas. If it were real, that is.
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Stevedog13: I had thought about that. The suit is bulletproof, but only if you get shot at just the right angle. However that still didn't satisfy my nerdy knowledge of ballistics.
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What HereForTheBeer said was absolutely correct. And MOST "bulletproof armour" really isn't bulletproof. You need to think about weight as well as ballistics when you talk about this stuff. You can design a suit of armor that will stop a bullet cold. Will you be able to wear it? Hell no. Way too heavy and cumbersome. That's why the compromise in the movie.
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hedwards: No body armor is bullet proof when you take a direct hit. The necessary materials haven't been invented yet to make it happen. I have to laud the writers for the more accurate portrayal of body armor. If you take a direct hit in body armor, you might not have the bullet puncturing you, but there's a good chance that there'll be enough force left to scramble your internal organs enough to be fatal. However, body armor that can deflect a bullet is much more reasonable.

It also happens to make for a somewhat more interesting movie than if the main character spends his whole time being impervious to bullets, there's some actual risk if he gets hit.
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Stevedog13: Body armor is bulletproof, that's the whole point. The materials have been around for quite a while, KEVLAR was first made over a half century ago. There is also Vectran, Titanium and Alumina Ceramics. They work by stopping the projectile and dissipating the force of impact over a wider area. You still feel the impact (it's bullet proof not physics proof) and there will be bruising but it'll be nowhere near a lethal blow. To test body armor it is placed on a dummy that's basically made of clay. They then fire rounds at the armor, both direct shots and at various angles, then measure how deep the dent in the clay is behind the point of impact. If that dent is too deep then the armor fails the test. Having armor that merely deflects incoming fire is not that practical. It works on vehicles because you can have large panels that all face the same direction, usually upwards, as most incoming fire is going to be more or less parallel with the ground. On armor that is to be worn this becomes much less effective. As a person is running, jumping, crouching or engaging in any other maneuvers the angles of the suit are changing. There is no way to realistically design the angles to protect equally in all positions, but even if you could what good would that really do? If a bullet hits armor and gets deflected where does it go? It's going to follow along the surface of the armor until it reaches an edge, and at the edge of chest plate armor you find arms, legs and a head. This is why real body armor focuses in absorption and dissipation rather than deflection.
NO! Body armor is NOT bulletproof. NO!.
I work in a field that deals with ballistics and advanced armor protection for soldiers.
It is nowhere NEAR as effective as you say.
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I am Legend.

What a story, what a terrible shame it became just another Will Smith vehicle and actually managed to completely miss the entire point.

It even came, in some versions, with multiple inaccurate endings- they actually gave you three ways to be bitter about the ending!
Silver Linings Playbook

Hated everything about this movie. Acting was awful (completely over the top) most of the time, but the worst thing was the writing. An unbelievable story (unfortunately not in a good way), idiotic dialogues and not a single likeable character in the whole movie.
Peter Jackson's King Kong. Everyone raved about it, made millions of dollars. So I watched it.

Awful movie. Truly horrible in every way. Acting was the drizzling shits, the CGI looked like some high school 3D studio max project, and all of the humor and pacing fell flat on its face. The whole movie shit the bed from beginning to end.

I think that was around the time that I finally admitted to myself that maybe Hollywood just didn't give a shit about making movies any more.