https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNhIll30Wc

Great advice, but I'd also suggest porn as that keeps your hand busy.

That simple combination of mind altering substances and debauchery can really work wonders.

Hey buddy, welcome to negative rep territory.

If you have any questions on how you feel or what to expect then don't hesitate to ask.

It can be a bit scary at first, especially when they rip off that last rep star.

Porn isn't engaging enough. And most porn I find is fairly low quality. Hentai's better. Maybe I need to find a specific genre that really resonates to me...

Wow, nice post. Very well said, and I couldn't agree more with the points you make. This post pretty much sums up this entire thread.

Yeah it seems the difference between most current "theorists" and the Woodward/Bernsteins is that the genuine guys know to give up on something, no matter what their feelings are on the subject, when the evidence just isn't there. These crap-theorists would never concede that they were wrong, no matter how completely the evidence proves it. That's because its more about keeping their audience hooked than any sort of actual interest in truth.

That should be a clear call-out to anybody who follows one of these "theorists" - look, if the guy is never willing to concede he's been wrong, while throwing around all this dubious "info", *that* is someone who is trying to make a living off of you, not "trying to spread the truth". A guy who simply wants to get the truth out there would admit it when he's been wrong, and when you're constantly churning out new conspiracies, well... you're gonna be wrong plenty of the time.

I tried making this point to the OP much earlier in this thread. I think you worded it much better than I did, but I still doubt he'll listen.

You know, in the pre-internet/early internet years, a few futurists and writers saw this coming. That in the "coming information age" they were considering, the way you would discredit an idea *wouldn't* be by refuting it - but rather by burying it in misinformation about the topic. Misinformation that occasionally contains a grain or 2 of truth here and there to gain maximum believability. Which then creates a series of contradictory facts/theories about the idea, and if these are promoted repeatedly, they will eventually all become somewhat "equally plausible" in the eyes of the public. Which is pretty much exactly what has happened, here in the US at least, where your version of "the facts" typically is tied to your political leanings. False Equivalence is the name of the game, and is more or less the guiding principle of the mainstream media here now. They fan the flames of this with that crap as much as the conspiracy nuts do.

I don't know what the answer is to that. Censorship? You'd hate to think we have to resort to that. Yet somehow that needs to change. One thing I believe is that our Democratic systems weren't meant to function in an environment where there is this much dispute over basic facts. It wasn't like that even 20 years ago.

So on one hand (your link) you have a commissioner who is worried about a certain policy that he thinks could lead to election fraud and on the other hand (link by OneFiercePuppy) you have a law professor who has done research on just that and found nothing to really be worried about.

Based on these two contrasting articles and similar incongruous content offered in this thread - regardless of the sources used - you seem to be strongly favouring the opinion over the fact to get to your idea of "the closest of the truth". Why is that?

What sort of porn do you like?

And try some quality German porn, Germans make the best porn by far.

Germans do everything better, and there's just something about their language and porn that is so wunderbar.

I think you're doing it wrong, porn isn't supposed to resonate.

Try using some Vaseline, although I find spittle also works a treat.

Yeah, it's not a pleasant thought, but the fact is, contrary to the popular belief that words never killed anyone, most of the worst dictatorships in recent history have come to be thanks to the ability of charismatic, ideologically aggressive leaders to gain a following. Censorship in and of itself is not a bad thing. The point is what you use it for - to protect the ruling class or party, or to protect the political system from those who would endanger democracy? Democracy and freedom can never be absolute, lest it consume itself through its own excesses.

Of course, history has seen humanity under some kind of dictatorship or another - benevolent or otherwise - almost continuously for the past few millennia. Democracy in our present day understanding of it is barely a century old, and the religious, sexual and expression freedoms that we enjoy nowadays even newer still. But even so, our democratic values have always been in a sense "controlled" - our place to exercise our voice and our vote is always pre-determined by the basic practical conditions of the political system. We voted during elections, we engaged in organised political forums. You needed a certain degree of influence and funding to gain a soapbox for your views, which usually entailed having a reasonable level of education and having a certain financial backing. It sounds distasteful, but there was always an element of control that filtered out the extreme elements.

Now, with the internet, you don't need education, you don't need funding. Everyone has a soapbox and the best way to stand out is to know how to shock people and inspire fear, which is what the extreme elements do best. It's a recipe for disaster, especially as the moderates risk becoming uninteresting or becoming extreme themselves.

And yes, I find it hilarious that it's specifically the anti-democratic elements that scream about democracy in this regard.

Give it up. Motherfucker has a cop out for everything.

If you show him an affidavit from god disproving his point, he will bullshit his way around it.

Yeah, despite the almost complete lack of evidence for "voter fraud" , plenty of people in the States are convinced that it's happening and widespread. Hell, it was among the most-voted-for questions from the public in that debate the other night - I think I saw it at #3 or 4 in the list when I checked last week, not sure where it ended up in the rankings.

Yeah this would be one of those "alternate truths" I was talking about in my last post, that's simply been told often enough (without being debunked at the same time) that lots of people have bought into it. Despite the near-complete lack of evidence. You gotta love it. :/

I couldn't find an affidavit but this just came through on Twitter:

Your understanding of history is poor. Woodward and Bernstein were reporters, who were tipped off -- not theorists. The system itself turned on Nixon because he was flipping out, literally.

Bernstein as an author is wretched because he doesn't bother to cite sources. To like Bernstein is to not give a fuck about sourcing, without which there's no way to verify anything.

As for democracy, what makes you think you're fit to call someone else anti-democratic? When did you ever demonstrate a commitment to democratic principles? To the contrary, you've demonstrated just the opposite, with your willingness to utilize undemocratic methods such as censorship.

O'Really? You must have a really short memory because there was massive voter fraud in the 2000 presidential election, predominantly against blacks. And it hasn't stopped.

https://www.thenation.com/article/how-the-2000-election-in-florida-led-to-a-new-wave-of-voter-disenfranchisement/

You mean like some of those maps I see that show heavy republic voters, and the ones that are democratic have 120% population voting participation, which should be impossible?

But we're not talking voter fraud. We're talking election fraud. Both are intimately tied together.

'Can't ask for ID' well if we can't confirm who people are, how do we prove the fraud?

Speaking of umbrellas and conspiracy theories...:
'The Umbrella Man' The follow-up documentary short (also by Errol Morris):
'November 22, 1963'

hey Lemon
Hows kicks?
How is that shrubbery coming along? Did you finally get that little path put in?

I would like to visit your country and purchase cookware duty free.