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timppu: Yeah that was years ago when even 3G wasn't yet widespread (at least in Thailand). "Mobile internet" meant mostly slow 2G speeds, or worse.

Nowadays it is better, but all prepaid data SIMs seemed to have monthly data cap, even the most expensive one had 9GB/month if I recall correctly. That may or may not be enough.

Of course if you live there semi-permanently, then you have better options for monthly paid fixed 10Mbps line etc... Then again, speedy internet on internet cafes is really cheap, but then you have to spend your days in one, take your laptop with you if you go to eat etc. EDIT: Oh yes may hotels/motels offer wifi too, sometimes they are slow and flaky though in my experience.
Yeah, those are the options I guess.
Haven't really got much experience with this in Thailand, more in Laos.
In there you could get some kind of a deal even with a tourist visa, I think.
A mobile broadband 4G for a cheap price would be ideal, but not sure how things are now.
I'm heading in both countries this summer, I could ask around :)
Ok, let's try to go over the whole thing again.
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Nirth: But are they really that lacking nutritents or filled with stuff we don't need or is that you go straight for the bacon or sweets? :p
Normally, the free breakfast involves toasts, cheese, milk + cereals and maybe some Jam. changes from place to place of course, but eating a bunch of bread helps keeping he hunger away, with that and one more meal outside I make do.
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Nirth: Ah, well I suppose if one can plan one can stay for a month or two at every new place, letting the body readjust. I'm not sure if I would mind buses abroad but buses in Sweden are awfully depressing way to travel to work or school on daily basis. Something about a feeling like you are on a boring routine that makes me want to take a bike even if it's during winter.
Well, I can typically take my time and not rush things; but budget is the biggest reason why I don't take intercontinental flights every week. I can't keep forking 400€ every month, after all; remember my biggest expense isn't accomodation (I have to pay that anyway no matter where I am), it's travel itself. Within Europe I move around more, but there's no jet lag to be had there.
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Nirth: Regarding the prices to travel by trains, how bad is it?
Well, it changes a lot from country to country, but usually at least double to easily 5 times more. Here in Belgium, for example going from Leuven to Brussels cost 5-6 € by train yet 1,40€ by bus. From Brussels to Gent, a half hour ride, it's around 14. 'Luckily', there are rail passes that make every trip within Belgium cost 7€, and local people get abonements for their usual commuting costs that are often payed for by their companies. In Germany, train prices are downright insane; and going from Brussels to London on the Eurostar costs around 100€ (just checked online) while I only payed 18£ to do the same by bus. Going home costs me around 80€ by plane (counting on my parents to pick me up at the airport, that is), about 110€ by bus and 200+ by train.



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Gede: Maybe it is him. :-)
No, I'm not.
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Gede: Hey, P1na, what sort of work do you do? Is it computer-related or is the computer just a tool for you?
I'm an IT dev, so it's certainly computer related. My computer isn't just a tool, it's my lifeline. I work on it, I play on it, I communicate with friends on it, and I'd be generally in deep trouble without one. Which is one of the reasons why I carry a spare laptop around. As for more detail on my work, that would be shameless advertising.
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Gede: Do you work as part of a team? Does your boss not care that you do this, encourages or merely tolerates it?
Tricky question. I do work as part of a team yes, we're essentially a startup. But, we're distributed and without any central office. Sure my boss mostly tolerates it, but he's paranoid so I don't care. If it was up to him, I would work from a fortified bunker. He's seriously worried about my laptop being stolen to access the company data, for instance. Sure, someone might steal my laptop, but I'm pretty damn sure it will be for the laptop itself. Nobody gives a crap about our company data. That said, we agreed on this way of working from the start. I believe he uses the fact that a "digital nomad" works for him as a way to showcase the coolness of the company too, that's how I got to know the term in fact.
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Gede: Do you work from the hotel room or work outside when the weather is nice?
I work from where I can. Normally I don't have private hotel rooms, so I typically work on hostel common rooms. Which can require serious concentration efforts, as I might have 5 drunk australians singing next to me. But I generally manage. I don't work outside very often because the sunlight on the laptop makes it hard to see the screen, and have you ever tried to use a laptop outdors at night in Thailand? Those mosquitos, man!
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Gede: Have you ever left something behind? Anything important? What about finding something broke during transport?
Of course I have, plenty of times. Worst times is when I've forgotten the laptop charger, which has happened twice now (I now carry a spare). I once lost my bank card, which left me without money in the Philippines, but I managed. Not optimally, it seems now, but no big deal. Kudos to Korea and Japan, extra nice people there when it came to returning lost items. I tend to lose Tshirts every now and then, and some socks too but I'm certain those were eaten by mini black holes. All in all, I don't carry much that I can't replace if the need arises, or at least nothing I can think of. Even my laptop, dear as it is to me, can be replaced as I keep my work documents on cloud services and such. Although there was this one time in Guatemala where my pajamas were stolen, it was a pain to get new ones. I spent a couple week sleeping in underwear.
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Gede: How big and heavy is your backpack?
I carry 2 backpacs, the big one is my house and weights about 20kg, or used to last time I checked. It's a one of those big backpacker backpacks, borderline being considered oversize baggage at an airport. Then, I have the office: a smaller, carry-on backpack with my backpack and most important documents. That weights around 3-4 kg, I think? Changes depending if I keep my spare laptop or my coat at home or at the office.
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Gede: What are your top tips that you think are important for travelling?
Dunno, we each travel differently. Don't be too scared to try stuff out, carry spares for the absolutely important stuff (computer and bank card for me), pay mind to security warnings but don't overly concern yourself with them (recommendation for southeastern asia was basically wear a hazmat suit, don't come out of your hostel room and only eat food you brought from home). Manage scope, don't plan for overly long stays (my first backpacking trip, by the 4th month sightseeing was not enjoyable anymore and felt like a chore) but don't rush through things (visit Europe in a week is bullshit traveling, IMO). In the end, shit can happen anywhere; not a reason to go out asking for it but the most interesting stuff is often found by going off the beaten path. Not that the popular touristy stuff isn't popular because it isn't good, mind you. Oh, and make sure to know where you keep your towel, as you might know it's just about the most massively useful thing you can carry.
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superstande: Well. you gotta admit: it's not like people like you can arrange a meeting somewhere, if you are all constantly moving about :P
I gotta admit nothing. Where's my lawyer?! I saw nothing, I heard nothing, I wasn't there; and if I was, I was asleep.
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superstande: I think gog forum people are a very varied lot, but lots of them are - I guess - in their 30's or even older, and many of them have settled down... maybe you'd find more luck checking out some other forums. Maybe on some travellers' forums there might be a topic like this...
I'm on my 30s myself. 31 to be exact. I know I can find others in speciality forums, as I said on the OP I'm not that special; I just wanted to know if there were others on GOG.
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timppu: Sorry if this was already answered, but is this because you choose to do so, or because your work requires you to change location constantly? You'd have an option for an office space in some company with your colleagues, but you've chosen to travel abroad instead?

If it is because your work requires it, then I'd rather not have that as I've pretty much settled down. If however it means I can choose to either go to the office, or work from home or even abroad... yeah that sounds great.
Choice, for the most part. There are occasional meetings or conferences I should attent to, but they are mostly optional anyway. I'm fairly certain I could settle down anywhere I want and keep this job, but honestly at that point I would look for some coworking space or something as I'm not big on working from home.
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superstande: I used to get this nice wi-fi in Laos
Honestly, IMO the worst internet you can get is in Germany. Everything is so protected it's absurd. "We'll send the wifi password to your email"? How am I going to check the email without the password!! That place is horrible, I can't work from there.
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timppu: Nowadays it is better, but all prepaid data SIMs seemed to have monthly data cap, even the most expensive one had 9GB/month if I recall correctly. That may or may not be enough.
Nope, nowhere near enough. And they typically only work on a single country. Fuck those, as long as my boss isn't willing to pay for a satellite connection, I'm making do with whatever wifi I can get.
Post edited May 08, 2016 by P1na
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timppu: Nowadays it is better, but all prepaid data SIMs seemed to have monthly data cap, even the most expensive one had 9GB/month if I recall correctly. That may or may not be enough.
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P1na: Nope, nowhere near enough. And they typically only work on a single country. Fuck those, as long as my boss isn't willing to pay for a satellite connection, I'm making do with whatever wifi I can get.
I was wondering last summer why in Thailand don't they offer limitless prepaid data SIM (3G/4G), even for premium price, (at least in the rural area where I was, not sure about Bangkok etc.). I would have gladly bought one if I had had an option, the 9GB was used in a couple of days.

I figured maybe it is because if they do, then half of the village will share the same data SIM, everyone using it for their internet needs (ie. the one who bought the SIM keeps sharing it to others for a small fee). I could see that happening there, really. So they have to put relatively strict data caps to make that less feasible.
Post edited May 08, 2016 by timppu
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P1na: I'm on my 30s myself. 31 to be exact. I know I can find others in speciality forums, as I said on the OP I'm not that special; I just wanted to know if there were others on GOG.
Yeah of course. Sorry didn't mean to sound like, "Go away ask some place else," :)
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timppu: I was wondering last summer why in Thailand don't they offer limitless prepaid data SIM (3G/4G), even for premium price, (at least in the rural area where I was, not sure about Bangkok etc.). I would have gladly bought one if I had had an option, the 9GB was used in a couple of days.

I figured maybe it is because if they do, then half of the village will share the same data SIM, everyone using it for their internet needs (ie. the one who bought the SIM keeps sharing it to others for a small fee). I could see that happening there, really. So they have to put relatively strict data caps to make that less feasible.
Well, after Christmas I spent some time in my hometown, and I didn't want to spend all the time at my parents', so I tried to rent an appartment for a month or so. One I saw was pretty good, but it didn't have internet which was a serious problem. Before rejecting it, I dropped by the local phone store and asked about portable data connections, wireless routers and such. Best I could get, 30€/month for... was it 10GB or 20? I think 10. And it would only work in Spain. I thought things had improved since last I checked, it would seem it hasn't. Whatever the reason for that transfer limit is, it doesn't seem to be limited to Thailand.
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P1na: (...) I dropped by the local phone store and asked about portable data connections, wireless routers and such. Best I could get, 30€/month for... was it 10GB or 20? I think 10. And it would only work in Spain. I thought things had improved since last I checked, it would seem it hasn't. Whatever the reason for that transfer limit is, it doesn't seem to be limited to Thailand.
I'm guessing the income from the SMS is dropping, and would be near zero if everyone went "data plan".

Time for more questions! (I'm curious by nature, I hope you don't mind)

OK, so, two laptops... is any of those laptops an ultra-portable, a chromebook or a netbook? Do you use a bulky system as your main work machine? How are your batteries holding on?

How can you also carry two backpacks around? Do you wear one on the front? I find that so uncomfortable! Do you know if there are any frontpacks made for that sort of use?

Do you happen to have a story where the "nomad" part actually helped you? Either with your job or you passed by Carmen Sandiego one day. Something that made you think "I don't believe this would have happened to me in an office or at home".

"P1na? There's a frood who really knows where his towel is."
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Gede: I'm guessing the income from the SMS is dropping, and would be near zero if everyone went "data plan".

Time for more questions! (I'm curious by nature, I hope you don't mind)
If I do mind, I will stop replying, so don't worry about it.
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Gede: OK, so, two laptops... is any of those laptops an ultra-portable, a chromebook or a netbook? Do you use a bulky system as your main work machine? How are your batteries holding on?
I have a relatively bulky big laptop as my main machine. The kind that has a bloq num on it. I bought a smaller machine because I thought it would be easier to travel with it, but I could never get used to working on it, so I ended up keeping the big one and using the smaller one as backup. It's a really big deal if my laptop does fail after all. As for my battery, it can last for a couple of hours or so. A lot longer if, like at Brussels airport, there are plugs everywhere. I don't know if this change is due to the terrorist or they were already doing it, but after the really annoying security this place is awesome.
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Gede: How can you also carry two backpacks around? Do you wear one on the front? I find that so uncomfortable! Do you know if there are any frontpacks made for that sort of use?
I put one on my back, the second over my shoulder. It's not like I'm walking around with both all the time. Frontpacks, no idea, never used one if it does exist.
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Gede: Do you happen to have a story where the "nomad" part actually helped you? Either with your job or you passed by Carmen Sandiego one day. Something that made you think "I don't believe this would have happened to me in an office or at home".
Tons of stories that wouldn't have happened at home. As for whether it helped... not professionally, in general. I do go to conventions or to meet freelancers working with us, and it's always better to meet the people you work with in person so that helps, but it's a net negative when it comes to work I'd say. I do try to do a good job, but it's typically despite not being at the office and hardly because I'm not at the office. Lack of direct face to face communication doesn't help, even if nowadays we can work around it, it still doesn't help. We might get to partner with Indians though, and if we do I can easily go over there and keep an eye on them which will help for sure.
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Gede: "P1na? There's a frood who really knows where his towel is."
But of course.
Post edited May 10, 2016 by P1na
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Gede: How can you also carry two backpacks around? Do you wear one on the front?
Come on, who carries backpacks like that anyway, like some pre-schooler? Unless I am going to hiking in the fjucking fjords of Norway, I carry a backpack only with one (or maybe two) straps on one shoulder. I have certainly carried two backpacks like that, each on its own shoulder.

It is also easier to see if some thief is trying to get something from your backpack, when it is not strapped on your back.
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Gede: How can you also carry two backpacks around? Do you wear one on the front?
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timppu: Come on, who carries backpacks like that anyway, like some pre-schooler? Unless I am going to hiking in the fjucking fjords of Norway, I carry a backpack only with one (or maybe two) straps on one shoulder. I have certainly carried two backpacks like that, each on its own shoulder.
I do like those thin laptops, but I really wonder if they make good work machines. I wish their keyboards would be better.

Amazingly, I do see a lot of tourists carrying a smaller (regular) backpack on their chest. Too many to consider this an oddity any more. So I suppose they know something I don't, since I can't do it for long periods.

I have also seen a big backpack with a dettachable regular backpack. I found that funny.


More questions: do you carry a camera around and take lots of pictures, or are you more an "experience it" guy?
Do you have a good mobile phone plan?

Have you ever went to the eastern block countries (like the old-USSR places) and taken advantage of the attractive game prices?
What care do you take regarding the network security at the hotels? Have you ever been suspicious?
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