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Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to make another Beastman Chaos Warrior run. Sooooo many fun mutations with that build on top of my demonic patron randomly messing with me at every level up. One time, one of my demonic patrons just outright killed me after I leveled up.
Reading this I understand that I am still too softcore to even try such games :) I remember playing [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demise:_Rise_of_the_Ku%27tan]Demise[/url], I had a very nice dungeon session, got tons of loot (some unidentified tomes which looked like extremely valuable stat tomes), so it was time to better go back to town and make save backup. But I thought "I so want to visit this one room over here, only this one room". Guess what, that one room had teleporter right behind the door, my party was scattered (everyone was teleported helplessly alone to some random place on gigantic map, and auto-map stopped tracking my progress). It could as well be "Game Over" screen, I was close to smashing monitor in pieces..

Ever since then I prefer to play games, where you can manually save everywhere or almost everywhere :)
Post edited June 12, 2015 by Sarisio
Posted June 12, 2015
Переведите мне что Джудас написал, гугл переводчик оказался бессилен в этот раз:)
Posted June 12, 2015
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stasongrom: О Джудас вернулся. Неужель отпуск окончился
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JudasIscariot: Vacation is still ongoing :P I am merely checking in on you guys every now and then between rounds of PosChengband :P

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to make another Beastman Chaos Warrior run. Sooooo many fun mutations with that build on top of my demonic patron randomly messing with me at every level up. One time, one of my demonic patrons just outright killed me after I leveled up.
That's what i call Next-gen graphics.
Posted June 12, 2015
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stasongrom: Переведите мне что Джудас написал, гугл переводчик оказался бессилен в этот раз:)
Как-то так.

Отпуск продолжается :Р Я просто время от времени заглядываю к вам между заходами в PosChengband :P

А теперь извиняюсь, мне надо ещё разок сыграть Зверолюдским Воином Хаоса. У этого сочетания ууууууйма прикольных мутаций, в дополнение к тому, что мне подкидывает случайным образом мой демонический покровитель. Один раз один из моих демонических покровителей просто убил меня, стоило мне получить новый уровень.
Post edited June 12, 2015 by Sanjuro
Posted June 12, 2015
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stasongrom: Переведите мне что Джудас написал, гугл переводчик оказался бессилен в этот раз:)
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Sanjuro: Как-то так.

Отпуск продолжается :Р Я просто время от времени заглядываю к вам между заходами в PosChengband :P

А теперь извиняюсь, мне надо ещё разок сыграть Зверолюдским Воином Хаоса. У этого сочетания ууууууйма прикольных мутаций, в дополнение к тому, что мне подкидывает случайным образом мой демонический покровитель. Один раз один из моих демонических покровителей просто убил меня, стоило мне получить новый уровень.
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Sanjuro:
Благодарствую:) Эх а мне не нравятся рогалики
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Vacation is still ongoing :P I am merely checking in on you guys every now and then between rounds of PosChengband :P

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to make another Beastman Chaos Warrior run. Sooooo many fun mutations with that build on top of my demonic patron randomly messing with me at every level up. One time, one of my demonic patrons just outright killed me after I leveled up.
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Rozenman: That's what i call Next-gen graphics.
The best graphics are all in your head :)
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stasongrom: Благодарствую:) Эх а мне не нравятся рогалики
You do not need to like "рогалики" :)

I am playing this one so as to clear my head from all the hype around the latest graphics craze for games. I like the fact that I have to use my imagination while playing PosChengband. Also, the lack of 3D graphics means you get more varied gameplay.

Did you know that you can play as a ring in this game? How do you play as a ring, you ask? Simple, you have a mechanic in this game that's called "Glimmer" and you use that to attract a random humanoid to pick you up and wear you and then you take control over that humanoid.

That's just a small sample of what happens when you eschew graphics :)
Post edited June 12, 2015 by JudasIscariot
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I am playing this one so as to clear my head from all the hype around the latest graphics craze for games. I like the fact that I have to use my imagination while playing PosChengband. Also, the lack of 3D graphics means you get more varied gameplay.

Did you know that you can play as a ring in this game? How do you play as a ring, you ask? Simple, you have a mechanic in this game that's called "Glimmer" and you use that to attract a random humanoid to pick you up and wear you and then you take control over that humanoid.

That's just a small sample of what happens when you eschew graphics :)
So why not make another step and play DnD instead? No game, no matter how well-programmed and thought-out, can beat an experienced DM with a lot of imagination and a sadistic vibe... I mean, an inclination to make adventures interesting rather than simple.
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: I am playing this one so as to clear my head from all the hype around the latest graphics craze for games. I like the fact that I have to use my imagination while playing PosChengband. Also, the lack of 3D graphics means you get more varied gameplay.

Did you know that you can play as a ring in this game? How do you play as a ring, you ask? Simple, you have a mechanic in this game that's called "Glimmer" and you use that to attract a random humanoid to pick you up and wear you and then you take control over that humanoid.

That's just a small sample of what happens when you eschew graphics :)
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Sanjuro: So why not make another step and play DnD instead? No game, no matter how well-programmed and thought-out, can beat an experienced DM with a lot of imagination and a sadistic vibe... I mean, an inclination to make adventures interesting rather than simple.
Two problems with this approach for me:

1. Other people. I like to play games in peace and I don't like having to rely on others for this.

2. Good DMs are very hard to come by :)
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Two problems with this approach for me:

1. Other people. I like to play games in peace and I don't like having to rely on others for this.

2. Good DMs are very hard to come by :)
Hmm, I see. The first point is harder to deal with (the obvious thing is to go on a session with people you like and don't mind relying on, but these people might not be into D&D), the solution to the second problem is but one created topic away. I'm sure if you asked the forumites about DMs, you'd have a long list to choose from in next to no time. :-)
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Two problems with this approach for me:

1. Other people. I like to play games in peace and I don't like having to rely on others for this.

2. Good DMs are very hard to come by :)
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Sanjuro: Hmm, I see. The first point is harder to deal with (the obvious thing is to go on a session with people you like and don't mind relying on, but these people might not be into D&D), the solution to the second problem is but one created topic away. I'm sure if you asked the forumites about DMs, you'd have a long list to choose from in next to no time. :-)
Oh I am sure of that :) Problem is that everyone is a wee bit scattered around the world unless someone's invented teleportation and I didn't know about it :D
Posted June 12, 2015
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Sanjuro: So why not make another step and play DnD instead? No game, no matter how well-programmed and thought-out, can beat an experienced DM with a lot of imagination and a sadistic vibe... I mean, an inclination to make adventures interesting rather than simple.
Не думаю, что можно проводить сравнение между компьютерными играми и настольным ДнД. Компьютерная игра представляет собой прежде всего чёткий набор правил, а также строгую и быструю автоматизацию математической составляющей, чего в настольных ДнД и их вариациях нет.

Не говоря уже о том, что то, что делает компьютерный вариант ролевых и "рогаликовых" игр интересным (лут, прокачка персонажа, разнообразие рас, классов и т.п.) в настольных играх не приветствуется. Все компьютерные "рогалики" - это оцифрованная мечта манчкинов.
Posted June 12, 2015
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Sanjuro: Hmm, I see. The first point is harder to deal with (the obvious thing is to go on a session with people you like and don't mind relying on, but these people might not be into D&D), the solution to the second problem is but one created topic away. I'm sure if you asked the forumites about DMs, you'd have a long list to choose from in next to no time. :-)
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JudasIscariot: Oh I am sure of that :) Problem is that everyone is a wee bit scattered around the world unless someone's invented teleportation and I didn't know about it :D
Two words: online session. ;-)
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Sarisio: Не думаю, что можно проводить сравнение между компьютерными играми и настольным ДнД. Компьютерная игра представляет собой прежде всего чёткий набор правил, а также строгую и быструю автоматизацию математической составляющей, чего в настольных ДнД и их вариациях нет.

Не говоря уже о том, что то, что делает компьютерный вариант ролевых и "рогаликовых" игр интересным (лут, прокачка персонажа, разнообразие рас, классов и т.п.) в настольных играх не приветствуется. Все компьютерные "рогалики" - это оцифрованная мечта манчкинов.
Почему бы и нет? Достаточно близкие формы досуга, игровые. ДнД даёт большую гибкость в сюжете и общем ходе приключения, компьютерная игра позволяет играть когда вздумается, не собирая других людей. Это если на базовом уровне, естественно, отличий больше.
Какой будет ДнД-сессия, сильно зависит от ДМа: некоторые как раз могут дать простор манчкинам и минимаксерам, круто обломав (или не обломав - опять же, сколько людей, столько стилей) их в конце; с другими вообще ни разу кубики не метнёшь, чистая текстовка с описанием действий и прочим; третьи... в общем, мысль, думаю, понятна.
Да и... какие-то люди эти рогалики пишут. ;-)
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Oh I am sure of that :) Problem is that everyone is a wee bit scattered around the world unless someone's invented teleportation and I didn't know about it :D
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Sanjuro: Two words: online session. ;-)
Sure, if you can give me a Beastman race, Chaos Warrior class that allows for mutations like being able to emit radiation, grow a scorpion tail, wings, an electric aura (just to name a few that I have seen so far...) AND a patron demon that also tends to slap on mutations whenever you level up. Also, the DM would have to roll for the patron demon's actions during level ups. Let's not forget that that the dungeons in PosChengband change every time you enter them so there's that.

Oh and I just got warts that take away some Charisma but give me 5 Armor Class :P
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Sure, if you can give me a Beastman race, Chaos Warrior class that allows for mutations like being able to emit radiation, grow a scorpion tail, wings, an electric aura (just to name a few that I have seen so far...) AND a patron demon that also tends to slap on mutations whenever you level up. Also, the DM would have to roll for the patron demon's actions during level ups. Let's not forget that that the dungeons in PosChengband change every time you enter them so there's that.

Oh and I just got warts that take away some Charisma but give me 5 Armor Class :P
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if such a DM existed... wouldn't even be surprised if there were more than one. :-P

I can't remember if I asked you already (the information was stored on an external data source which seems to have been misplaced :-D) if you've played ADOM. I've lost countless troll monks thanks to this game. :-)
Posted June 12, 2015
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JudasIscariot: Sure, if you can give me a Beastman race, Chaos Warrior class that allows for mutations like being able to emit radiation, grow a scorpion tail, wings, an electric aura (just to name a few that I have seen so far...) AND a patron demon that also tends to slap on mutations whenever you level up. Also, the DM would have to roll for the patron demon's actions during level ups. Let's not forget that that the dungeons in PosChengband change every time you enter them so there's that.

Oh and I just got warts that take away some Charisma but give me 5 Armor Class :P
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Sanjuro: Well, I wouldn't be surprised if such a DM existed... wouldn't even be surprised if there were more than one. :-P

I can't remember if I asked you already (the information was stored on an external data source which seems to have been misplaced :-D) if you've played ADOM. I've lost countless troll monks thanks to this game. :-)
I tried it a bit and I don't know, I just could not get into that one. Might try the ASCII version instead of the version with graphics :)

If you want a roguelike take on some popular games, I recommend DoomRL or DiabloRL :)
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