Posted March 08, 2010

bansama
bansama.com
Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan

melchiz
New User
Registered: Sep 2009
From United States
Posted March 08, 2010
The above responses are the problems to which I was referring.
People excuse Steamworks because it's "tame." Yes, Steamworks is not as bad as Ubisoft's new DRM, but Ubisoft's new DRM is certainly an extension on the themes introduced by Valve. Steamworks, in essence, in a well-loved gateway to darker DRM systems. Publishers have seen the success of Steamworks and will wish to replicate its architecture.
Does anyone here honestly believe that Ubisoft would have introduced this new system had Steam and Steamworks not reached such popularity?
People excuse Steamworks because it's "tame." Yes, Steamworks is not as bad as Ubisoft's new DRM, but Ubisoft's new DRM is certainly an extension on the themes introduced by Valve. Steamworks, in essence, in a well-loved gateway to darker DRM systems. Publishers have seen the success of Steamworks and will wish to replicate its architecture.
Does anyone here honestly believe that Ubisoft would have introduced this new system had Steam and Steamworks not reached such popularity?

DarrkPhoenix
A1 Antagonist
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States

destroyermaker
damaged lemon
Registered: Nov 2008
From Canada
Posted March 08, 2010
Best news so far this year.

Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted March 08, 2010
The schadenfreude is strong in you young captfitz
In me too
In me too

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted March 08, 2010

Eh... Steamworks = one time on-line activation and extended services for the game.
Ubisoft DRM = you must be connected all the time. That is all.
So yeah, I think they would, 'cause the only thing Ubi has taken from Steam is the on-line part and if Steam wouldn't come up with that, someone else would - actually, when I have heard about on-line activation for the very first time, I knew someone would do this eventually. Also, Steamworks can still be considered a service with it's own advantages and disadvantages. I don't see any advantages in ubisoft DRM, which is making them incomparable.
I'm not trying to find an excuse or something for Steamworks. It's a service, like any other. You want to use it, you will, you don't, well... You don't have to. It can be beneficial for both customer and publisher, which is, in my opinion, how things should work. I don't feel restricted by Steamworks and so I will not hate this form of protection, on the contrary, I feel it makes my life easier. Ubi DRM on the other hand is only beneficial for the publisher and restricting for the user, therefore, isn't so... Good.

destroyermaker
damaged lemon
Registered: Nov 2008
From Canada
Posted March 08, 2010
Servers fixed now apparently. Aw.

Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia

DarrkPhoenix
A1 Antagonist
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted March 08, 2010
2 alias: Some games, maybe, I am not sure, since I am on the internets pretty much all the time. But I know I have been playing on my netbook for at least a month without connecting to the interwebz a single time...
Post edited March 08, 2010 by Fenixp

melchiz
New User
Registered: Sep 2009
From United States
Posted March 08, 2010

Well, I think it has to do with a character flaw, which is rather common among the younger generations: inability to admit failure. When a consumer purchases a bad product, he can recognize his mistake or he can attempt to justify the purchase. Many users become extremely defensive when their chosen products have significant flaws, and viciously defend said products instead of admitting that the purchase itself was a mistake.
Ergo, those who purchase Assassin's Creed II may defend this new DRM in order to persuade themselves into believing that the purchase was indeed wise.

destroyermaker
damaged lemon
Registered: Nov 2008
From Canada

KingofGnG
I hunt Ghouls
Registered: Sep 2008
From Italy
Posted March 08, 2010
I bet my balls on the Ubisoft response to this: our DRM servers are broken? No problemo, we just need to build more servers....
When you use your ass instead of your brain and you are paid gazillion dollars per year for this, you keep up doing the same again and again and again until someone fires you. And if you are the big-boss-CEO well, it's pretty difficult to be fired until you end up killing the whole business.....
When you use your ass instead of your brain and you are paid gazillion dollars per year for this, you keep up doing the same again and again and again until someone fires you. And if you are the big-boss-CEO well, it's pretty difficult to be fired until you end up killing the whole business.....
Post edited March 08, 2010 by KingofGnG

bansama
bansama.com
Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
Posted March 08, 2010

Ubisoft DRM = you must be connected all the time. That is all.
Actually Steamworks (and indeed Steam proper) checks your authentication every time you launch a game while in online mode. Only if you set the client to offline mode do you avoid having to reauthenticate. Of course, the second you go back online and launch a game, you'll be authenticating again.

Jekadu
Not a lake
Registered: Jun 2009
From Sweden
Posted March 08, 2010

Ergo, those who purchase Assassin's Creed II may defend this new DRM in order to persuade themselves into believing that the purchase was indeed wise.
Nah, that's just people in general. Admitting you're wrong hurts.
As for Steam, I had no preconceptions about Valve when I started using it as the only game of theirs I had played by then was The Orange Box. (And thus needed to use Steam anyway).
I use Steam because I find it to be an awesome service: great catalogue, good prices, frequent sales, fast downloads, automatic patching, excellent UI-community integration, no CDs... only thing I miss is boxes. New game smell, y'know, although technically game boxes don't smell.
I will admit, however, that this is the first time I've hesitated in buying a game because of DRM. While my "connection record" over the past year has been practically flawless in World of WarCraft, I have no idea how strict the Ubisoft servers are. Maybe I'll get AC2 on the 360 instead, although I hear the PC version is much prettier to look at...