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Gundato: Facts are great. But they aren't "truth". If I were to say "Toyotas accelerate uncontrollably", I would be stating a fact. But that wouldn't be "true", since it is only certain makes and models (anything after 2000 :p). And when you start picking and choosing the facts that you report as "truth", you are applying spin.

But I am not the one spinning the facts here, I have only presented them. There is a working crack for AC2 which does not play 2 cutscenes. A person can still play the game from start to finish and a lot of gamers skip cutscenes anyway. Ubisoft are the ones saying there is no crack.
- Ubisoft said the problem was the servers were overloaded.
- Then they said it was hackers.
- Now they are saying it's server overload again.
People just want to know which one it is, why was the system not protected from hackers and most importantly why the system cannot cope with the current levels of demand when Ubisoft themselves said the system was complete, ready and stable.
In business you always factor in the worst possible cases. If you want to market a child car seat you make sure you find the biggest, fattest baby crash test dummy, you put a huge coat on it and load it with weight to make sure it can cope with the worst possible case. Ubisoft needed to prepare for more than half of their customers to actually play the game they bought.
Post edited March 08, 2010 by Delixe
To be honest Bad Company 2 worked for me on the first and second day it was out, online didn't work on day 3 at all, and from day 4 onward everything worked except the veterancy M1 Garand unlock. So Bad Company 2 didn't work for me for 1 day, whereas Ass-Creed (which is should be called because the people who bought the game have the taste of ass in their mouth) has not worked yet and probably won't until the DRM gets patched out completely.
Still funny how they were talking shit a few weeks before, Ubi saying this is the end-all of DRM that will be the best ever and they are SURE of it. Yeah, they're just full of confidence now lying to everyone, and obviously lying too. Sad yet funny.
It seems the latest server update to AC2 has disabled the previously posted .txt editing fix. People are back not being able to play it again. What exactly are Ubisoft playing at?
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Delixe: It seems the latest server update to AC2 has disabled the previously posted .txt editing fix. People are back not being able to play it again. What exactly are Ubisoft playing at?

Screwing over the customers apparently. That's all they accomplished at least.
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Gersen: Ouch, they do that now ? I thought they were only delaying activation in certain region, I didn't knew they were going as far as preventing games from being activated at all...
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cogadh: I don't think they actually have done it yet, but they do have the ability to do it now. AFAIK, they've only done the regional blocking as you describe, which is bad enough in itself.

Oh, they already use it. I've confirmed it's used in Modern Warfare 2 and others rumor it's used in some of the Total War games too -- but I don't own any of those so can't confirm.
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Gundato: Facts are great. But they aren't "truth". If I were to say "Toyotas accelerate uncontrollably", I would be stating a fact. But that wouldn't be "true", since it is only certain makes and models (anything after 2000 :p). And when you start picking and choosing the facts that you report as "truth", you are applying spin.
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Delixe: But I am not the one spinning the facts here, I have only presented them. There is a working crack for AC2 which does not play 2 cutscenes. A person can still play the game from start to finish and a lot of gamers skip cutscenes anyway. Ubisoft are the ones saying there is no crack.
- Ubisoft said the problem was the servers were overloaded.
- Then they said it was hackers.
- Now they are saying it's server overload again.
People just want to know which one it is, why was the system not protected from hackers and most importantly why the system cannot cope with the current levels of demand when Ubisoft themselves said the system was complete, ready and stable.
In business you always factor in the worst possible cases. If you want to market a child car seat you make sure you find the biggest, fattest baby crash test dummy, you put a huge coat on it and load it with weight to make sure it can cope with the worst possible case. Ubisoft needed to prepare for more than half of their customers to actually play the game they bought.

You presented the facts you wanted to present, and then drew conclusions from them. But whatever.
And again, you are arguing semantics. By your definition, the crack works. By the definition of a pirate playing for the story, it doesn't (those two cutscenes). Ubi chose the latter definition, and said there is no "valid crack" (or whatever they actually said). Big difference there.
AC1 had a crack at day negative twelve or something. But Jerusalem was buggered as hell, so it was not a "valid crack".
And no, you don't plan for the worst possible cases. If you do that, you won't make profits. Using the car seat example: If we want to plan for the worst possible case, we better use fancy foam and make it out of the stuff that Black Boxes are built out of. But they ARE built to handle all expected problems. And contrary to popular belief, you can't "expect the unexpected".
Did Ubi drop the ball? Probably. But we don't know by how much. A DDoS mixed with more users than expected could play havoc. And incompetent PR guys doesn't help.
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Delixe: If it is true or not is irrelevant. The fact is their servers should have been capable of dealing with such an attack as they would have been muppets not to expect one. Even if Ubisoft are telling the truth it still means that you now cannot play that game if some hackers decide to take out their jollies on Ubisoft.

Oh I agree completely. DDoS attacks are nothing new, and there are plenty of methods available for hardening servers against them. And as I had also mentioned in my own post it does indeed make little difference to the consumers who get fucked over; not being able to play is not being able to play.
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Gundato: Seriously, if this really WAS "hackers" and the like, Ubi can't really do anything. A dedicated group of idiots will always succeed (especially if they are just doing a DDoS attack).

DDoS attacks are hardly a new phenomenon, and there are plenty of methods to mitigate their effects. Quite a few such methods were discussed in the Slashdot thread on this topic, and made for some interesting reading. Of course, setting up the servers properly so they can handle most DDoS attacks costs a bit extra than just going for the cheap, half-assed approach. And since Ubisoft makes their money from people buying the game, not from people playing the game, they have little incentive to spend the money needed to ensure the likes of three nines or better uptime.
Just got a call from a co-worker, it looks like Wal-Mart broke street date and AC2 is on the shelves right now, at least here in the Nepa. Stroudsburg to be more precise. If this is going on all around the country then Ubisoft's servers are about to receive a midnight pounding.
That last part should not be interpreted as sodomy(maybe).
Post edited March 08, 2010 by Menelkir
"Haha, we've got your $60 and now we're leaving you!"
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Menelkir: That last part should not be interpreted as sodomy(maybe).

Ubisoft is the one doing the raping, not the other way around. ;)
Yeah, i won't be buying shit from these fluck tards, they can shove there games up there ass with this type of bullshit.
So I heard that Steam pulled AssCreed 2 and Silent Hunter 5 from their UK store...is that true?
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Catshade: So I heard that Steam pulled AssCreed 2 and Silent Hunter 5 from their UK store...is that true?

Yes because Ubisoft do not wish to sell their new games in the UK over Steam and Valve put them up regardless (until ordered to remove them).
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bansama: Yes because Ubisoft do not wish to sell their new games in the UK over Steam and Valve put them up regardless (until ordered to remove them).

I can only take that as a compliment. It's like a con artist moving on from your neighbourhood because he's not getting any business.
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Catshade: So I heard that Steam pulled AssCreed 2 and Silent Hunter 5 from their UK store...is that true?
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bansama: Yes because Ubisoft do not wish to sell their new games in the UK over Steam and Valve put them up regardless (until ordered to remove them).

So valve sell in the uk over what are presumably implicit objections until ordered to stop but they refuse to sell in japan and other places (EG: I can't buy max payne 2 on steam) for pretty much no reason?