I'm considering purchase of RAH-66 Comanche versus Ka-52 Hokum
or maybe Apache vs. Havoc
Your advice is requested:
I loved "LHX" on my old Sega Genesis console. (I also loved YF-22 Interceptor, and 688 Attack Sub games, though the Sub game was hard to learn how to control).
I particularly liked the fact that in those Sega flight games, you had multiple POVs you could switch around: chase plane view, cockpit, etc. Also, in YF-22, you could switch the control to normal-person-intuitive "steering wheel" mode rather than counterintuitive stick. Loved that aspect. A lot.
I liked the PC game "Secret Weapons Over Normandy" which I've read described as an "arcade game" whatever that means. I LOVED the Mechwarrior games.
However, I've tried a couple of games that were listed as "Simulations" and hated the experiences. Hated is actually not a strong enough word.
I can't remember all of them very well, but some I've tried were:
Dangerous Waters ( a close candidate for Worst Game Ever, IMO) Uber-complex.
I played a demo of a tank game called "Iron Warriors T72". It was the emotional equivalent of being raped. Yes, I found it THAT frustrating.
I bought Silent Hunter III, and really wanted to love it. After failing the tutorial goal of sinking a stationary target literally over 40 times, I put the CD in the microwave oven and melted it into a lump of charred plastic. The stench of burning plastic was not as bad as the bitter taste this game left in my mouth.
I had some game in which you fly the "Warthog" jet, the one that is used for ground attack. It was so demanding of system resources that it wouldn't run, at all. Lag, lag, lag, lag.
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A trait that is stereotypically attributed to males is a desire to figure things out for themselves, to skip the instructions, never use a map, etcetera. Not true of me at all.
While the rush of discovery can be fun, I have a tolerance for frustration that is in the negative numbers. Not only will I ask for directions, I will print out the map before I leave. Even better if the car has a GPS to guide me.
As a six year old kid, my sadistic siblings literally threw me in the water, when I was unable to swim. I nearly drowned, and still have vivid nightmares. To this day, I will not go anywhere near the water, and I have a deep passionate hatred for anything that smacks of "sink or swim" brutality.
I'm overstating things a little here, but this is a sore spot that makes me rant.
Suffice it to say that I like tutorials. A lot. Really Loooooooooong tutorials that are 100% interactive, and that cover EVERY command, option, button, drop-down menu and key in the game. I hate surprises when it comes to controls.
I don't want to learn inside the game. I want to be baby-stepped through every sort of command, so that I will already know it before I'm inside the game.
Most games do not have good enough tutorials, and leave too much out.
A simulation game needs not only a tutorial but a BIG LONG one.
I do not learn from reading a vague and poorly-written manual.
I refuse to learn from trial and error.
I need an INTERACTIVE tutorial that walks me through every single command
in the game. If you're going to throw a dashboard with 18 dials on it, you damn well better have a lesson built in on every single one of them.
If you would describe the two games I am considering as "punishing", "unforgiving",
"user-unfriendly" or "steep learning curve" or "they throw you in the water, and you have to instantly swim, or drown", that would be good to know.
Also nice to know if the games have tutorials or not.
Thanks for reading.

Depends.
Can you run it?
Which sounds more fun to you?
Do you want to have to swim?
Seriously, can you run it?
And now it begins.

You could have just asked the question and left it at that, you know. Nobody really cares that you almost drowned (I wish you did, personally) or set fire to plastic or your strange tutorial fetish. Dare I say... drama queen?
Anyway there's always Red Baron and such if you're just into flying stuff. I quite like IL-2 though.

Judging by the lack of response to your rambling question i guess you have pretty much used up your share of the good-will and patience the GOG community shows time and again. You know, because you are an unlikeable fuckhead.
I really hope your pc dies on you, leaving you staring at four walls and the travesty that is your nasty little life.

Don't. You know it won't work. Just like every other game you've bought in the past few years. Put the money towards a computer that's not crap.

Don't buy any game.
Hire a whore and buy a better computer. In that order.

Might I suggest a Playstation 1?

Here is the description of Dangerous Waters from MobyGames:
"Dangerous Waters is an in-depth simulation of modern submarine and anti-submarine warfare (ASW), with a particular emphasis on realism. As the direct successor of Sub Command, Dangerous Waters entitles you to command the most advanced nuclear submarines in operation: the American SSN-21 Seawolf-class and 688i Los Angeles-class, and the Russian AKULA-I IMPROVED and AKULA-II. Additionally, you will be able to take control of the variants (Projects 636 and 877) of the KILO-class diesel-electric attack submarine, a ship which lacks the endurance, speed an power of its nuclear counterparts but which is particularly quiet when running slowly and deadly in shallow waters."
Now, if you don't like complex gameplay, and you buy a game like that, guess who's to blame? That's right, it's you.
Here's my advice: Play the built-in solitaire game in Windows. Maybe Minesweeper. Maybe even a couple of casual games such as Jewel Quest, but that's it. It just about all the steam-driven Babbage Engine you call a computer can run, anyway.

An excellent turn of phrase ☺

No answers have been marked as the solution yet? That's surprising.

Thanks. I bought that game here on Gog. After literally six times trying to download it I have given up. Every single ime, "corrupt file". Gog doesn't care, all they say is "No one else is complaining."
Thanks.
Thank you. Still have my Playstation 1. Drag it out once in a while.
Gave up on consoles after that, because I didn't want to have to buy three consoles to have the freedom to play the good games.
I'm nauseated at the price of current console games. Who has that kind of money?

Yes, mocking someone for not having the money to buy a modern computer is so clever, trendy and cool!
Better advice than you realize.
You've come onto threads I've started before, and have whined in a similar manner.
One can only conclude that you're a sick, perverted pathetic sado-masochist.
You crave and love the pain of reading my topics, and you get off on the phony sense of identity garnered by trying to put someone down.
The fact is, you're a completely worthless human being with nothing to offer and no compassion for others. This is why you'll eventually be murdered. You'll shoot your asshole mouth off once too often.
Or are you too much of a pussy to talk this tough in real life? Yeah, that must be it.
Simple solution. You don't like my threads? Don't read them, you creep.l
Uh huh. No one cares. Which is why you feel compelled to mention it?
Details matter, asshole. If you don't understand the person, you cannot actually understand the question. You've yet to offer anything worthwhile here. Die soon. Painfully.
VERY incorrect. There are gleaming examples of modern games that have played flawlessly on my system. I can only conclude that this means that most game designers suck donkey balls, and a few know what they are doing.
"Far Cry" runs as if it were a movie. Flawless isn't a strong enough adjective. Only one example.

Really ? You never seem to be short of games to bitch about - unless Torrent is your best buddy.
And as you say, it's clever, trendy and cool to always blame your problems on the *games* (using terms like 'fraud', 'ripoff'' and 'raped') while using a system that is/was 'antique' and 'junk'.

Awesome! I'll get right on that. As I type I'm trying to get infected by ebola which is a problem so I'm going to hire a BDSM hooker with sharper than usual power tools.
I find it funny how people like you say that I'm too much of a pussy to deal with you in real life... online. I'm sure you such an enchanting person in real life though.

OUCH! Bearcat...booboo...sweetheart.. Did i touch a nerve?
I think too many lonely, bitter days spent trying to get games to run on your clockwork computer; and way too many nights crying yourself to sleep admist the hardend, crispy tissued wreckage of another masterbation session have sent you batshit insane.
Is there any self awareness left inside that twisted mind of yours for you to realise that you are an internet crazy? I especially loved the accusation of no 'no compassion' followed by the wish for my murder.
Keep dropping your wretched threads and i will keep making my asshole comments. 'Cos you are a crazy fucking asshole and i will comment....Oh and the answer to your question is that 'You are a crazy prick that no-one likes' so mark the thread as solved yeah?