God I'm so damn nervous. While not a complete abomination, Thief 3 is massively disappointing. The whole structure was just so ill-conceived and so unnecessarily so, I couldn't help but be like: "WHY? Why not just stick to the individual, sprawling nonlinear levels?"

i still can't get thief 2 to run on winxp.

Guyz guyz there already is a Thief 4. Here's the linky!
http://www.mindplaces.com/darkmod

Ahh if only there was some website that sold old games that are tailored to run on modern OS'...

My Thief 2 runs beautifully. What problem are you getting?

does the intro video, then quits or freezes, I forget it's been so long I gave up. :(

So it makes it past the intro, but before getting to the main menu, it quits?

yeah.

I don't remember if I've suggested this to you before, but ddfix should correct all problems faced when running Dark Engine games on modern systems.

i've only played #3, which was ok but nothing amazing, from what I've heard the two before it are better. The only real good portion of Thief 3 was Shalebridge Cradle... creeeeeeeeeeepy. I thought it could've used a little less linearity though. Thief 4 could be awesome, with great reservations on the could

wow, they are doing some impressive things with the doom 3 engine
it looks good

Quite true, many old games are utter shit but at least they had the decency to be cheap (or on a casette you could tape over). I've been gaming for nigh on 30 years (My release date was between Pong & Space Invaders) so I've pretty much been watching it all my life.
The real problem I suspect is the lower number of games released, the turds are more notable amongst a smaller lineup

When it comes to such specific games like Thief series, 'making a good game' and 'making a good-selling game' are contradictory terms nowadays, IMHO.
I'd be really, really, really surprised, if T4 has such immense, unique atmosphere and playability like T1 & T2.
[and I hated Shalebridge Cradle - I crawled around first part of the map for a good hour and half, only to learn there was completely nothing hostile in the area :) ]

Amen. This level stopped me playing the game for a year or so. I then decided to install and play again only to find that my save games were still there and I was back in Shalebridge Cradle... Fantastic design but genuinely terrifying.
Karl