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Gvaz: Sure, but the point is they're an incentive to preorder from that store.

The point is, there is now no way to get them otherwise since they were preorder items, so henceforth they should be release. This is pretty simple :(
That doesn't make any sense.

Get items for your preorder, but once you can actually play the game and finally *use* those items *all* of them should become available to you?

I think you're missing the concept here ;)
The point of the vendor dlc was to get people to buy from that vendor in terms of preorders.

Now, they're disappearing into the night because they're not being given out anymore. They're not given out on new orders, only on preorders and that is over and done with.

What about the rest of us that want them? Did you expect me to buy a copy from each retailer just to get the vendor DLC? No!

Should they just disappear and allow no one to have them? That's not very fair at all. Just release it as a pack so everyone can benefit now that the stores have benefited.
Post edited May 18, 2011 by Gvaz
Promising an exclusive goody and then making it available to everyone is also not fair. So, I really appeal to CDP to never ever make them available.

Just give them some time. The game is just a few days old. There is so much to play, even without the tiny bits that were added here and there. Maybe they will make them available later or maybe not. In this case you have to live with it. And since it's not really important...
Uh. I'm trying to register the game, but none of the boxes to register account are allowing me to type anything in them.

Known issue?
OK, here's my take, having read all 19 pages (so far!) of this discussion. Apologies in advance for the length of the post, but I haven't seen these issues directly addressed so far.
I bought TW1 on Steam (yeah, boo, hiss, I know! ;) and enjoyed it. I love when a good game is released which is outside the usual misnomered US "AAA" titles. I have purchased several games from smaller publishers and am generally against DRM. I am not as anti-DRM as perhaps I would be in an ideal world. HOWEVER... I bought TW2 from GOG for three reasons: 1) hoping more money would make it's way directly to the studio (and from there, the devs) 2) supporting a reseller (publisher in this case?) not using DRM, as I believe DRM only hinders legitimate buyers, not copyright breakers. 3) The artbook. I like these, but I am not willing to spend that much!

Let me give you three examples of how TW2's DRM affects legitimate buyers.

A) Two years ago, I had no internet at home. I relied on work for downloads. I had to activate (and patch!) a couple of games via my mobile phone. Guess how much fun that was. :( I wouldn't install games on my work PC, though I am a sysadmin. It's part of my security policy, not to mention I don't run Windows at work. This means that patches had to be downloaded and brought home on removable media. This example also works for e.g. students, where they have no internet at home, do on campus, but can't install software. Similar rules apply in workplaces which don't allow access to another boot medium, don't allow access to unauthenticated machines/boot environments, don't allow users to install software, etc. These by no means preclude the downloading of large files (my work link is 100Mbits/s), but they do stop online patches from working.

B) A good friend of mine can't afford internet at home, but has a link at work. He can afford the occasional game. Again, he can't install games at work, so online patching is again out of the question, only offline patches which he can go home and install. OR, he could ask another friend (not me!) to download an illegal copy of some software, or buy a dodgy DVD. The pirate versions contain an installer and cracked patches, or an already-patched version. The dev's get no money from him in this case.

C) Another good friend has a better job and more money, but he lives in the countryside. The only ISP in his area caps usage to 30GB per month. Downloading the full game again (were it even possible in this case) would leave him with not enough bandwidth for much else, including his remote connection to work, BBC iplayer, YouTube and online gaming. Stand-alone patches would either be within his usage cap, or downloadable from me or work and installable from an offline source.

TW2's form of DRM doesn't work for any of these example real-world situations. I appreciate that GOG isn't CDP:RED, so I'm not blaming GOG, but to say their TW2 release is DRM free is disingenuous. It's not a problem for me, but I am morally in the wrong if I ignore problems because they don't directly affect me.

Anyway, hopefully CDP:RED will reverse their stance on the online-only patching, and GOG will be able to either host patches (best option AFAIK), or offer patched versions of the full game for redownloading. As an IT guy, I have to think this last option would be pretty expensive.

PS: A lossless version of the audio would be nice for my non-PC audio system, thanks! :D If I liked the music more, I would be all sadface at not having a top-quality version for my hi-fi, having recently been converted to the joys of decent audio reproduction.
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Anyway, hopefully CDP:RED will reverse their stance on the online-only patching, and GOG will be able to either host patches (best option AFAIK), or offer patched versions of the full game for redownloading. As an IT guy, I have to think this last option would be pretty expensive.
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They have the intention of including patches in the download at some point, at least they said so. Those guys who do not have internet access on their gaming computer but want patches (which seems to be highly recommended looking at the first patches release notes where many bugs have been eliminated) must wait until then.
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Trilarion: Those guys must wait until then.
And "then" could be very soon, or very far ahead in time.

About the DLCs and the "expansion packs", does anyone know if the first will be included in the GOG update and if the latter will be tied to one's GOG account?
GOG.COM please pleaes please release vendor DLCs, please, please, I BEG YOU :d
Any numbers or statements available of how well Witcher 2 was met by the people, i.e. how many times it sold or something like this?
I don't have the internet on my game pc and so i cant use the game launcher to get the dlcs or patches.

So gog please allow us to purchase the dlcs as a standalone exe if we have brought the main game off you. (as i have)

Please have patches available on gog too. (as mentioned I cant use in game launcher to download these)


edit - I wonder for the upcoming 1.1 patch if i can - download and install the game on my laptop (which cant run the game but can probably install it) - patch it using the launcher. and then copy the game files or patch files to gaming pc ?

anyone know ?

the unpatched game is have some crashing issues for me so I really hope I can patch using this method.
Post edited May 23, 2011 by goodgame01
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goodgame01: I don't have the internet on my game pc and so i cant use the game launcher to get the dlcs.

So gog please allow us to purchase the dlcs if we have brought the main game off you. (as i have)

Please have patches available on gog too. (as mentioned I cant use in game launcher to download these)
This will not happen, because you would be giving the dlc and patches to the piraters of the game as well. which is the main reason it was built into the launcher and requires a login to download and install.

It also seems weird that you would have a gaming PC without the internet, what is holding you back from connecting it?
its a really weird situation but the wireless connection i use at home is run by my flatmate who is a computer programmer and is always opening up the ports on the router for some reason or another.

When i connect my laptop to this network my software firewall gets hack attempts all the time.
(laptop is locked down with no file shares and lots of AV + firewall protection)

my gaming pc has no AV and no firewall and is running Win XP 2nd edition - it runs all my games really well. I really dont want to risk connecting on this hostile wireless connection.

As i said its a really weird situation.
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goodgame01: its a really weird situation but the wireless connection i use at home is run by my flatmate who is a computer programmer and is always opening up the ports on the router for some reason or another.

When i connect my laptop to this network my software firewall gets hack attempts all the time.
(laptop is locked down with no file shares and lots of AV + firewall protection)

my gaming pc has no AV and no firewall and is running Win XP 2nd edition - it runs all my games really well. I really dont want to risk connecting on this hostile wireless connection.

As i said its a really weird situation.
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GameRager: Use a library/etc pc and use a thumb drive to download dlc?
I can download dlc / patch no problem. but the issue is installing it on my gaming pc if gog/ cdp red wont provide standalone installers. eg you can only o download and install the patch from the computer where you run the game but in my case i cant do this:(
Post edited May 23, 2011 by goodgame01
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GameRager: Use a library/etc pc and use a thumb drive to download dlc?
As things are now, he'd have to install the game on that pc to download the stuff. Or maybe copying a bunch of integral files would be sufficient, but you have to use the game launcher to download the patches & dlc, at least as far as I know.
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GameRager: Use a library/etc pc and use a thumb drive to download dlc?
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Adzeth: As things are now, he'd have to install the game on that pc to download the stuff. Or maybe copying a bunch of integral files would be sufficient, but you have to use the game launcher to download the patches & dlc, at least as far as I know.
Im hoping i can install the game on my laptop, patch using the launcher and then copy the files over to my game pc. (fingers crossed)