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langurmonkey: If you think Licurg is a douchebag for having an imagination aka pretending to be a dark god or demon, then the forum would be a lot better off without you, honestly.
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gameon: 1: It might have been better for Licurg to do a giveaway saying "i am a dark lord. You must post a pic of something of sacrifice in order to win sacrifice" rather than: Post dead animal pics.

2: The forum IS better off without me. I'm not well liked here, and i don't fit in with the social standards here. Nevertheless, as i'm a member of GOG, i have a right to post here.
Maybe he doesn't know how to be very social with people. Most people who aren't good with people, I've encountered, think, if something doesn't bother them, it won't bother others.
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gameon: 1: It might have been better for Licurg to do a giveaway saying "i am a dark lord. You must post a pic of something of sacrifice in order to win sacrifice" rather than: Post dead animal pics.

2: The forum IS better off without me. I'm not well liked here, and i don't fit in with the social standards here. Nevertheless, as i'm a member of GOG, i have a right to post here.
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langurmonkey: Maybe he doesn't know how to be very social with people. Most people who aren't good with people, I've encountered, think, if something doesn't bother them, it won't bother others.
Trust me. I have 0 social skills. But i do know right from wrong. I'd expect that from most people. Although age might make someone post something immature if they think it would be funny.
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xxxIndyxxx: Is it me or is this topic derailing a bit ;)
My sentiments exactly. This thread has devolved bigtime.
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langurmonkey: Maybe he doesn't know how to be very social with people. Most people who aren't good with people, I've encountered, think, if something doesn't bother them, it won't bother others.
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gameon: Trust me. I have 0 social skills. But i do know right from wrong. I'd expect that from most people. Although age might make someone post something immature if they think it would be funny.
But how is what he did, wrong? He did something that disgusted many people, that is it. What he did, is on the same level, as someone letting out a nasty fart at the dinner table.
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langurmonkey: Why should we be grateful? It isn't like they volunteered.
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amok: I really do hope you are vegan...

Anyway, this is why I do not get involved with fanatics. Have a good life.
I'm not a fanatic. Every time I said the torturing and killing of animals, I meant the torture and killing of animals. I have nothing against the killing of animals if it is necessary(like for survival or food if there are no super markets you can go to). If a bear breaks into your house and threatens your family, nothing wrong with killing the bear. I have nothing against people who eat cheeseburgers unless the cows were tortured first. The torture part is what I'm against, and then killing them afterwards is insult to injury because all they got to experience from life was pain. I have nothing against farmers etc.
Post edited November 16, 2012 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: But how is what he did, wrong? He did something that disgusted many people, that is it. What he did, is on the same level, as someone letting out a nasty fart at the dinner table.
And you wouldn't consider that wrong? Most people with social skills know how to behave in public. So you can fart at your own dinner table (when you're alone), but normally you wouldn't do that at your best friend's wedding. In the same way you can be interested in photos of dead animals, but asking for them in a public forum is at least a little distastful.
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gameon: Trust me. I have 0 social skills. But i do know right from wrong. I'd expect that from most people. Although age might make someone post something immature if they think it would be funny.
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langurmonkey: But how is what he did, wrong? He did something that disgusted many people, that is it. What he did, is on the same level, as someone letting out a nasty fart at the dinner table.
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amok: I really do hope you are vegan...

Anyway, this is why I do not get involved with fanatics. Have a good life.
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langurmonkey: I'm not a fanatic. Every time I said the torturing and killing of animals, I meant the torture and killing of animals. I have nothing against the killing of animals if it is necessary(like for survival or food if there are no super markets you can go to). If a bear breaks into your house and threatens your family, nothing wrong with killing the bear. I have nothing against people who eat cheeseburgers unless the cows were tortured first. The torture part is what I'm against, and then killing them afterwards is insult to injury because all they got to experience from life was pain.
can you please move this out of this tread? if you have such burning feelings for this topic then create a new thread and take it there, this is derailed enough now. And a fanatic is a person who see a issue in black and white only - a ultimate truth and everything else is wrong - so far you have proven to be so. also to have double standard - I am sure the cow "volunteered" to be cheeseburger. Now I am done with you, take this elsewhere please.
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langurmonkey: But how is what he did, wrong? He did something that disgusted many people, that is it. What he did, is on the same level, as someone letting out a nasty fart at the dinner table.
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PaterAlf: And you wouldn't consider that wrong? Most people with social skills know how to behave in public. So you can fart at your own dinner table (when you're alone), but normally you wouldn't do that at your best friend's wedding. In the same way you can be interested in photos of dead animals, but asking for them in a public forum is at least a little distastful.
No it isn't wrong unless he purposely did it only to disgust people and ruin the event for everyone. He didn't know better obviously and nobody here was harmed. No animals were tortured and killed in a laboratory because of what he did. Creating a thread that entices people to say bad things about him and calling him a douche bag is overreacting to what he did. I've also noticed that people from Romania and similar countries are not sensitive to such things like dead animal pics. That part of the world has a lot of farms so people see dead animals often there. Maybe that is why he didn't know better?
Post edited November 16, 2012 by langurmonkey
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PaterAlf: And you wouldn't consider that wrong? Most people with social skills know how to behave in public. So you can fart at your own dinner table (when you're alone), but normally you wouldn't do that at your best friend's wedding. In the same way you can be interested in photos of dead animals, but asking for them in a public forum is at least a little distastful.
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langurmonkey: No it isn't wrong unless he purposely did it only to disgust people and ruin the event for everyone. He didn't know better obviously and nobody here was harmed. No animals were tortured and killed in a laboratory because of what he did. Creating a thread that entices people to say bad things about him and calling him a douche bag is overreacting to what he did. I've also noticed that people from Romania and similar countries are not sensitive to such things like dead animal pics. That part of the world has a lot of farms so people see dead animals often. Maybe that is why he didn't know better?
I agree that calling him a douchebag wasn't very nice, but I can't see that Bavarian enticed people to say bad things about Licurg. And about him not knowing better: He might have been surprised about the reactions at first, but long after first people complained, he asked for bloodier photos and refused entries that tried to participate in a more sensible way.
Of course it is his giveaway and he can do whatever he likes, but in my eyes he crossed the line for what is appropriate for a public forum (at least for a gaming forum, wouldn't mind if we were in a hunting forum).
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langurmonkey: But how is what he did, wrong? He did something that disgusted many people, that is it. What he did, is on the same level, as someone letting out a nasty fart at the dinner table.

I'm not a fanatic. Every time I said the torturing and killing of animals, I meant the torture and killing of animals. I have nothing against the killing of animals if it is necessary(like for survival or food if there are no super markets you can go to). If a bear breaks into your house and threatens your family, nothing wrong with killing the bear. I have nothing against people who eat cheeseburgers unless the cows were tortured first. The torture part is what I'm against, and then killing them afterwards is insult to injury because all they got to experience from life was pain.
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amok: can you please move this out of this tread? if you have such burning feelings for this topic then create a new thread and take it there, this is derailed enough now. And a fanatic is a person who see a issue in black and white only - a ultimate truth and everything else is wrong - so far you have proven to be so. also to have double standard - I am sure the cow "volunteered" to be cheeseburger. Now I am done with you, take this elsewhere please.
No, that is not the definition of a fanatic. And the cow obviously didn't volunteer to be meat for a cheeseburger but if it lived a nice life then I don't see the big deal because people need to eat. How is being against the torturing and killing of animals but being okay with killing an animal who has lived a good life for survival "also to have double standard"? Why should I make my own thread? What should I respect this possible troll thread?
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langurmonkey: No it isn't wrong unless he purposely did it only to disgust people and ruin the event for everyone. He didn't know better obviously and nobody here was harmed. No animals were tortured and killed in a laboratory because of what he did. Creating a thread that entices people to say bad things about him and calling him a douche bag is overreacting to what he did. I've also noticed that people from Romania and similar countries are not sensitive to such things like dead animal pics. That part of the world has a lot of farms so people see dead animals often. Maybe that is why he didn't know better?
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PaterAlf: I agree that calling him a douchebag wasn't very nice, but I can't see that Bavarian enticed people to say bad things about Licurg. And about him not knowing better: He might have been surprised about the reactions at first, but long after first people complained, he asked for bloodier photos and refused entries that tried to participate in a more sensible way.
Of course it is his giveaway and he can do whatever he likes, but in my eyes he crossed the line for what is appropriate for a public forum (at least for a gaming forum, wouldn't mind if we were in a hunting forum).
When people start attacking you like you are the worst person in the world, it is human nature to become very defensive. Bavarian could of just posted in Licurg's thread, sharing his thought that what Licurg is doing is offensive to him and probably to many people. If you create a thread, you are enticing people to respond and when the OP is about Licurg doing something offensive, naturally, people who want to say bad things about him, will do so without fear. They will join the angry mob. Strength in numbers.
Post edited November 16, 2012 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: When people start attacking you like you are the worst person in the world, it is human nature to become very defensive.
I can't see that anyone did this (btw. he didn't even complain about this thread). But let's keep the discussion out of this giveaway. I think it leads nowhere.
If I can enter still (I didn't real all 7 pages), then I'll enter. I'm up for anything except Divine Divinity. I got that one already.

In many ways, I think that people should be forced to kill just a few of the animals that they eat. I think we should all recognize and respect just how huge it is to eat meat. You're ending a life. And life is precious.

In doing so, I think people would abuse animals less.

Yay for not injuring animals!

Also, we don't need to eat me to live in most locations of the world. Some places, I understand. It's needed. But other places, you can do very well with eating little to no meat and be just fine (in fact, likely be healthier).
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xxxIndyxxx: Is it me or is this topic derailing a bit ;)
It's just you. This topic has derailed a lot :))
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Tallima: If I can enter still (I didn't real all 7 pages), then I'll enter. I'm up for anything except Divine Divinity. I got that one already.

In many ways, I think that people should be forced to kill just a few of the animals that they eat. I think we should all recognize and respect just how huge it is to eat meat. You're ending a life. And life is precious.

In doing so, I think people would abuse animals less.

Yay for not injuring animals!

Also, we don't need to eat me to live in most locations of the world. Some places, I understand. It's needed. But other places, you can do very well with eating little to no meat and be just fine (in fact, likely be healthier).
Death takes your body. Torture rapes your soul. Vegan/vegetarian meat replacements are also insanely expensive.
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xxxIndyxxx: Is it me or is this topic derailing a bit ;)
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Aningan: It's just you. This topic has derailed a lot :))
If the topic subject is
"The anti-Sacrifice-giveaway giveaway" then why shouldn't you expect it to become derailed?
Post edited November 16, 2012 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: No it isn't wrong unless he purposely did it only to disgust people and ruin the event for everyone. He didn't know better obviously and nobody here was harmed. No animals were tortured and killed in a laboratory because of what he did. Creating a thread that entices people to say bad things about him and calling him a douche bag is overreacting to what he did. I've also noticed that people from Romania and similar countries are not sensitive to such things like dead animal pics. That part of the world has a lot of farms so people see dead animals often there. Maybe that is why he didn't know better?
Don't generalize. I am from Romania and I do not like pictures of dead animals. I spent enough time on a farm while growing up. But seeing a puppy die, knowing they kill and eat the rabbits I was feeding, knowing that people would actually drown unwanted kittens and puppies did not thing to desensitize me, on the contrary it bothers me quite a lot. And yet I did not go to Licurg's topic and spew hateful bullshit as some people do in a topic that is opposite to that one.

Seriously, that topic is a giveaway, this topic is a giveaway (a better one :P ), stop treating it like some sort of argument. It's actually you people who are fighting that made this into something else. It's a giveaway, enter it or sod off.

Edit: the last part is not aimed at you langur, but at everyone who's fighting here, which obviously includes you :)).
Post edited November 16, 2012 by Aningan
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langurmonkey: No it isn't wrong unless he purposely did it only to disgust people and ruin the event for everyone. He didn't know better obviously and nobody here was harmed. No animals were tortured and killed in a laboratory because of what he did. Creating a thread that entices people to say bad things about him and calling him a douche bag is overreacting to what he did. I've also noticed that people from Romania and similar countries are not sensitive to such things like dead animal pics. That part of the world has a lot of farms so people see dead animals often there. Maybe that is why he didn't know better?
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Aningan: Don't generalize. I am from Romania and I do not like pictures of dead animals. I spent enough time on a farm while growing up. But seeing a puppy die, knowing they kill and eat the rabbits I was feeding, knowing that people would actually drown unwanted kittens and puppies did not thing to desensitize me, on the contrary it bothers me quite a lot. And yet I did not go to Licurg's topic and spew hateful bullshit as some people do in a topic that is opposite to that one.

Seriously, that topic is a giveaway, this topic is a giveaway (a better one :P ), stop treating it like some sort of argument. It's actually you people who are fighting that made this into something else. It's a giveaway, enter it or sod off.
Maybe you are the exception in your country? I mean, if something is all around people, don't most become desensitized? This topic is more than a giveaway.
Post edited November 16, 2012 by langurmonkey