Posted November 01, 2009

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada

Rohan15
The Joe
Registered: May 2009
From United States

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted November 02, 2009
I'm not!
No I'm not!
NO! And this doesn't sound like Weclock I know at all!
Actually... That sounded more like Weclock I know
Hey, I'm not against off-topic, not at all! (as you can see). I like naturally flowing conversation.
However, discussion about Steam and Impulse killed oh so many discussions about games that could have turned out to be great - and I'm closing most of them before I'm even finished reading topics, because they're full of arguments I'm seeing for bizilionth time, countered by counter-arguments I've seen even more.
Besides, off-topic is one thing, but completely derailing the topic, burying any meaningful opinion about the game in truckload of stuff that has already been discussed so many times is something completely else, ESPECIALLY when one and the same discussion is taking place in multiple topics at one time. You know, discussion forums are not the same as natural conversation - the latter isn't 'saved' anywhere and when new one arrives, he just catches on whatever's talking about - he doesn't see topic 'Torchlight' to see conversation about DRM. And then some other topic where he finds ... Well, conversation about DRM. Is it really so hard to click a few times and move conversation somewhere else? It can STAY natural, interesting and won't spoil anything.

DarrkPhoenix
A1 Antagonist
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted November 02, 2009

The thing is, though, it typically takes two people to actually have any kind of discussion. Now, if the typical situation were anti-DRM folks just spamming up every thread despite everyone else trying to just ignore them then I'd be right with you condemning such behavior. However, what typically happens is someone mentions DRM with respect to some game (whether to ask what it is, state they're not planning to buy the game because of the DRM, or state which distribution method they will or won't buy the game from due to DRM), then someone else feels the need to respond, often to criticize the topic of DRM even being brought up, and from there the topic derailment takes off. Other times the initial post on DRM is followed by a multipost bitch-fest about how DRM shouldn't be being discussed, which actually does more to derail the topic than the initial post ever could have (you commented on this phenomenon yourself in the Torchlight thread).
Of course what it comes down to is most people simply aren't willing to let comments pass, and feel some kind of need to respond to anything that rubs them the wrong way, even if the discussion has already been had multiple times before and derails the topic. Naturally neither you, me, nor anyone else can do much to change this behavior in others, all that can be done is to recognize such behavior in ourselves and hold back on postings that we feel ultimately wouldn't be particularly worthwhile. If enough people do the same, then there won't be an issue anymore. And while we're at it we can also go ahead and wish for world peace (hey, if we're going to be doing wishful thinking we might as well be thinking big).

Gundato
The Peepe
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted November 03, 2009
And you are right as usual :-) Oh, I DO wish for world peace :D
Also, I really hope if I talk about it a bit, at least SOME people will stop completely burrying topics about games by talk about DRM.
We're... Kind of starting to move in circles here, so let's call it a day ... A discussion? ... Err, let's just quit it :D

Metro09
Your Ad Here
Registered: Sep 2009
From United States
Posted November 03, 2009
I have it on good authority that Steam eats babies.

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada

Faithful
Brain Freeze
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted November 03, 2009

To be honest I am not sure what threads are being "completely" buried by DRM talk.
However, it is ironic that "SOME" people who want a conversation to stop on a given topic (e.g. DRM) are the ones that actually keep it going.

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic

michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted November 03, 2009
Gamersgate is fucking slow. It took me just under 24 hours to download Just Cause. Maybe it's just me, but come on!

Weclock
The Creeper
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States

Delixe
Not Merry
Registered: Sep 2008
From Ireland

Weclock
The Creeper
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States