And once again, lukipela praises the state of affairs. Well, his title says it all.

Successful troll is successful, WhiteElk.

Yeah, beating the fuckcrap out of a girl for kicking her sandals at you is clearly defendable due to a LACK OF CONTEXT.

Well, makes me glad I don't live in a third degree police state.

I really have started to wonder recently, when and why this "classy" community started going off the rails, and downhill.....
First, GameRager, now Lukipela....Who's next? Gog staff for not giving you all-week sales?

What the hell went wrong with "Debating the arguments"?? You'd all rather just jump all over someone with a dissenting opinion than your own? This is Steam Forums, now? O_o

FUCK ME! Grow the fuck up. Seriously.

And for the record, I kinda have to side with Lukipela a little here : Those clips definitely don't tell you everything : What the "victim" said, threatened, tried to pull out of his/her clothing....

First clip, he's pulled to the ground, and then we lose sight of what he does - something's moving around near the car door, though - so he's not passively laying down, before the officer draws his baton. Probably drunk, probably threatening violence...but no audio....conveniently.

In the second clip, the man is right up against the door, maybe threatening violence, but again - no sound but some godawful music over the top...

In the third clip the woman kicks off her shoe at the officer, then it jumps to the outside camera of the shoe bouncing off the officer's leg. Arguable response by them, but you can be arrested here, in the UK, for much less than actually hitting police with anything.
And what's being thrown out of the cell when they've pinned her to the floor, and handcuffed her???

Last clip is someone obviously trying to evade arrest by driving at high speed, in a dangerous to other road users manner. Not innocent by a LONG shot. Does he deserve the beating after? I don't know. WHY was he trying to evade arrest? Drunk driving? Armed robber? Child molester? Again, no audio....just a highly polarized view. of a few seconds of a crash, then a *MAYBE* unwarranted beating...

You've all got brains, Haven't you?
So why are you swallowing this load of bilge as gospel truth that the Police are bad?
Question them, but question the motives of the person making, and passing, this video around :
WHY no audio?
WHY only short clips?
WHY no description of framing events?
Hell, WHY no "aftermath" reports?
Why no references to locations, people involved, so we can at least look up the real story, instead of this biased crap?

That seems to be all they care about : Making a meaningless number go up, or forcing those of others to go down.

There are more important things in life to worry about.

Especially not the (mis)behaviour of self-entitled spoiled brats...

meh. Some people don't have the brains they were born with :P

I only recognize the one with the girl kicking off her shoe. She was told to remove her shoes at the time and yes she did kick them off and it hit the officer. The office was not injured by the shoe. She did not resist when they came into the room (the thing being thrown into the hallway is her other shoe). The police department fired the officer who went into the room first and he was tried twice for misdemeanor assault (both resulting in mistrials). The sheriff's union also voted to not support the fired deputy.

I've got a brain. How about you?

There's plenty other police brutality clips online that has audio in them if you bother to look them up. In this case though, the video was made with that specific song as the audio. You know, to drive home the point.

I do remember the specific case with the girl being beaten. I seem to recall those officers were taken out of duty. They should never be allowed to work in the police forces again, although sadly they probably will be.

And seriously. A guy just drove into the ditch and got flung out of the fucking window. And you're saying that BEATING HIM UP AFTERWARDS, WHILE HE IS SEMI CONSCIOUS IN A DITCH, SHOULD BE ACCEPTED BEHAVIOUR?

What would that lead to, exactly? What has it lead to in the past?

Sorry caps, but I'm fucking screaming here.

Yeah, driving home the point it's biased, and one-sided. With little in the way of balance, information, or anything else reasonable people NEED to make INFORMED DECISIONS.
It's propaganda.
Nothing more, nothing less.
QUESTION EVERYTHING! And I mean *EVERYTHING*.
People are so intellectually bereft these days, they eat this shit up with a spoon, and not only "buy" it, they sell their first-born child for it? O_o

I'm sure there are other clips, and if they're of the same (low) calibre as this one, just about as useful. Toilet paper has more use.

Yes, IF those officers are convicted, by a jury, not by internet-tards stroking their e-peens, with the full information about circumstance, then they should be jailed for it, which will preclude their ever working in public office, let alone Law Enforcement, ever again (or should, IIRC).

Yes, it appears he got flung out of his window while HE was driving BADLY, attempting to ESCAPE from LEGAL detention. In plainer words : It's his own damned fault.
Does he deserve the beating afterwards? I don't know - what was he trying to escape for? What was his crime. A DUI? Probably not worth the beating, the police were over-zealous.
Armed robber? Did he kill someone? debatable - depending on HIS victims.
Child Molester? Fuck YEAH! beat him to snot! Save the expense of feeding and housing him for 20-life.

The point, you and nearly everyone else here is missing : That video is long on apparent abuse of power, and VERY short on framing details that would explain the reason for the alleged abuse of power.
I'll say it again : It's a piece of propaganda, nothing more, nothing less.
Why y'all are so "fucking upset" over it, is ludicrous, at best. You're told to question authority, but you should also question the purveyor of this bilge. As soon as someone rags on THE MAN, you all suddenly stop thinking for yourselves, and what? Overthrow Authority at ANY cost? O_o
Fuck me, you're worse than I initially thought in this.
Christ, that's like believing the American Revolution in 1776 was not about the British taxing tea, legalising slavery and protecting the land-rights of the natives.

Oh wait.....that was about a removal of taxes on tea, criminalising slavery, and stopping "Americans" from stealing, then selling native's lands.... :facepalm:

You're screaming about the wrong abuses. ;)

wow, GOG's classy community is clearly dead in this thread. And I don't really understand how a guy thrown out the window of his crashing car, thus certainly seriously injured (he is not moving a bit) deserves an additional beating from the police officers.

And beatings on people in a cell? Come on, so those police officers feel so threatened in their lives by somebody screaming at them that they feel the situation asks for a good beating? Looks to me like some people have anger management problem and so should not be in the police.

Because being in the police not only means enforcing the law, it also should mean having an exemplary behavior. I don't need no fuckin' Judge Dredds in my police forces.

But yeah, of course, there are certainly perfctly reasonable reasons. Whatever.

Here's a test.

I'll show you a 10-second reel from, say, Dachau, filmed medio 1944. No audio.

Is that anti-nazi propaganda to you?

They all seem very excessive to me. I don't think violence was needed in any of those clips even though were not getting the full picture. That last one was really bad. He was probably very badly hurt and even if he was not, he wasn't resisting at all and didn't even look to be conscious.

Without knowing exactly what it is, who's involved, and what's happening before and after, it's purely meaningless. Pro- or Anti- Nazi, are irrelevant.
For all someone born in the last, say 10 years, knows, it'll be some cruddy Hollywood film, from "olden times" and never really happened.

Those of us older, and hopefully wiser, will be able to reason out some of its meaning, and import, but again, without details, it's still meaningless.

I could show that same clip to 100 different people, of all ages, and tell them some guff about it being smuggled out of Gitmo, and it should be closed down....

How many would believe it?
Edit : How many would unquestioningly believe it?

So now you're basically claiming that the clips are fake, and that there's some anti-authoritarian conspiracy going around staging and filming these encounters, then releasing them as propaganda?

What if I provided the information that every clip is real - how does your opinion then change? Suddenly the nazis are swines, let's go get 'em boys?

Do you see where your argumentation falls through here?

No.

There is no possible context that could justify that beating. He could have been Hitler and it still would have been wrong. As others have said, context isn't needed for that last clip because there is nothing anyone could ever do that would justify him being beaten up by the police.

I'm claiming absolutely nothing of the sort, and how you came to that conclusion proves my point : You're unthinkingly accepting what the maker of that video wants you to accept.

I'm throwing out questions on the validity of using short, context-less films, pasting them together as to show precedent, and on-going abuses as some sort of homage to anarchism against any and all authority is somehow a "god-given" requirement and right of the masses.
I'm throwing out questions to make, apparently uselessly, some of you remember how to think for yourselves.

But no, you'd all rather just eat this shit up with a spoon. It's far easier, and far less work.
O_o

I'm throwing out questions for information I DO NOT HAVE and NEED to make an INFORMED decision about something. Anything. Rather than just knee-jerk a reaction that may or may not be right, and then jump all over anyone who's of an opinion that differs.

Do you see where YOUR argumentation and assumptions fails there?