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A DRM-free, AAA, new title on GOG.com? Yes! We decided to promote this highly-anticipated RPG by our sister company CD Projekt RED as a one time special.

We just couldn't resist the opportunity to offer you the best pre-order offer for The Witcher 2 you'll find in the world. First of all, you don't have to pay upfront for the pre-order. Pre-order The Wicher 2 on GOG.com now and pay for it at the release. If you make the pre-order on GOG.com you'll get loads of free bonuses: instant access to some exclusive bonus content from The Witcher 2, a 10% discount, a free copy of one of five classic RPG's from GOG.com and much more. Check out the full pre-order offer and make your pre-order for The Witcher 2 [url=http://gog.com/en/page/tw2_preorder/]here.
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GameRager: 20 dollars/euros for a AAA title with a shit ton of extras including: Free digital artbook(100+ pages), free bonus gog tile from a list of 5, 16 dollars in extra store credit for european customers, printable papercraft figures, manual, etc etc?

Are you insane? Or just cheap and/or a troll here?
Digital delivery? I want a very low price, end of the story. I could spend such a high amount of money for something I can hold in my hands, NOT for digital bits. You think this is insane? Well, conversely I think it's a pretty common opinion about this so called "revolution" of digital goods. Digital goods don't cost money to be "manufactured", so considering the cost involved in the production of a high-class game I think 20 Euros are fair enough.
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VoodooEconomist: @Gundato: Gog.com and CDP both announced that there will be no DRM in the gog version, I see no reason not to believe them.
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Gundato: It is just a matter of how you define "DRM". A lot of people don't feel the DLC-model used by ME2/DA:O to be DRM since it doesn't hinder your enjoyment of the base game at all. A lot of others consider it DRM since it involves activations and won't let you play your DLC-filled game without an active internet connection.

Can you understand why CD Projekt would want to side with the "it isn't DRM" angle? :p

I doubt anyone is going to really complain (DLC is nice), but for those who are strictly 100% no DRM whatsoever, make sure you do some research/wait to ensure that you will still count the game as 100% DRM-free.
The game is technically drm free........even if the game with dlc isn't. The original game would still be drm free and thus their assertion and claim stands.
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scampywiak: The difference is paying customers don't get the shaft. It's not that hard to figure out, really. Or would you rather they go with Ubisoft's plan?
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StingingVelvet: You must have had to try very hard to take my post so wrong. The point is YAY for CDP, they're not bothering with annoying DRM that does not work. BOO to the gaming media for acting like this is risky or insane, since EVERY game is DRM free anyway on thepiratebay.
We're hoping that this will lead MORE game makers to ship games as little to no drm on release, to make games easy to install and enjoy for people overall, not just piraters.

But go ahead and think as you do, but don't blame me when......the Spanish(anti-drm) Inquisition comes a knocking!
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GameRager: 20 dollars/euros for a AAA title with a shit ton of extras including: Free digital artbook(100+ pages), free bonus gog tile from a list of 5, 16 dollars in extra store credit for european customers, printable papercraft figures, manual, etc etc?

Are you insane? Or just cheap and/or a troll here?
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KingofGnG: Digital delivery? I want a very low price, end of the story. I could spend such a high amount of money for something I can hold in my hands, NOT for digital bits. You think this is insane? Well, conversely I think it's a pretty common opinion about this so called "revolution" of digital goods. Digital goods don't cost money to be "manufactured", so considering the cost involved in the production of a high-class game I think 20 Euros are fair enough.
You're forgetting that it does cost to produce the games.....employee's salaries, devlelopment hardware and software, utilities to run the buildings the stuff is made in, servers to host the download files, etc. You're paying for a AAA title made by an awesome game making team who should be paid equally and want to give them peanuts. Why not fully stab them in the heart and buy a gamestop used version then.
Post edited November 19, 2010 by GameRager
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GameRager: They said no drm in the digital gog version so there won't be any drm.......trust them. :eyebrows:
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Gundato: It is all a matter of marketing. As long as they SAY it is "DRM Free", and enough people agree, it is. Same reason why nobody minds having to authenticate with GoG's servers to be given access to the installers. GoG spins it as DRM-Free (and, compared to most alternatives, it is), and users accept it, so feel it can't be "the evil DRM beast".

Ironically, something similar happened to Ubi-DRM. Ubi tried to spin it as not being DRM, but it was too restrictive, so people wouldn't accept that.

But, like I said, I can't really think of any way to handle DLC without DRM of some form (unless everything is free and unrestricted, and the retailer-specific packs suggest otherwise).
I think you worry too much. No-DRM is No-DRM. CD projekt sells The Witcher 2 without DRM. They can do exactly same thing with DLCs. They trust you will pay because if you were a pirate you would be able to get a cracked version anyway.
I don't believe you will ever need an active internet connection to play The Witcher 2 with DLCs.
Post edited November 19, 2010 by Krisk7
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GameRager: 20 dollars/euros for a AAA title with a shit ton of extras including: Free digital artbook(100+ pages), free bonus gog tile from a list of 5, 16 dollars in extra store credit for european customers, printable papercraft figures, manual, etc etc?

Are you insane? Or just cheap and/or a troll here?
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KingofGnG: Digital delivery? I want a very low price, end of the story. I could spend such a high amount of money for something I can hold in my hands, NOT for digital bits. You think this is insane? Well, conversely I think it's a pretty common opinion about this so called "revolution" of digital goods. Digital goods don't cost money to be "manufactured", so considering the cost involved in the production of a high-class game I think 20 Euros are fair enough.
You should read at least one license agreement before installing new commercial software then. You don't own any of it basically. You just pay for the right to use it. Whether you have a disk, or downloaded it, it's still the same license, so you're using a digital good, a code, pay for a service it provides, but you do not own it. But you still pay for it, don't you?

Just because it's cheaper to deliver (and not that much, servers are costly) doesn't mean it's any less worth, and with more of the profits going to those who did manufacture the CORE THING itself, the code (much more important than just the box, and disc, and manual) you ensure that more of what you chosen will be produced.

Of course you are free to say "this price is to high for me" and not to buy it. That's a consumer decision, that's how the market works. Just be aware not to confuse "digital goods" with "effortlessly produced" and don't think of them as any less real.
fyi, the original Witcher ( enhanced) is available from Amazon downloads for 6 bucks ...
Post edited November 19, 2010 by stumegan
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stumegan: fyi, the original Witcher ( enhanced) is available from Amazon downloads for 6 bucks ...
Is is uncut as well?

And do you need to create an account to download the game or what?
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stumegan: fyi, the original Witcher ( enhanced) is available from Amazon downloads for 6 bucks ...
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GameRager: Is is uncut as well?
I'm pretty sure the latest patch (or even before that) adds back all content to the cut versions.
Post edited November 19, 2010 by Miaghstir
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Miaghstir: I'm pretty sure the latest patch (or even before that) adds back all content to the cut versions.
Yep. Director's Cut patch, which I believe is 1.5 and the last the game received.
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Whitecroc: Oh boy. Oh boy, oh boyohboyohboyohboy. Do. Want.
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VoodooEconomist: Glad to be of service. Also, don't mourn - RPGs aren't dead, they just smell funny.
I'm not really making a statement - in a way RPGs are more alive than ever before; there's hardly a game without RPG elements out, and it actually feels odd when playing an exception. I just figured it was a nice pun on my favourite NPC name from Planescape: Torment. :)
Post edited November 19, 2010 by Whitecroc
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Whitecroc: I'm not really making a statement - in a way RPGs are more alive than ever before; there's hardly a game without RPG elements out, and it actually feels odd when playing an exception. I just figured it was a nice pun on my favourite NPC name from Planescape: Torment. :)
Yeah, I saw what you did there :D
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GameRager: We're hoping that this will lead MORE game makers to ship games as little to no drm on release, to make games easy to install and enjoy for people overall, not just piraters.

But go ahead and think as you do, but don't blame me when......the Spanish(anti-drm) Inquisition comes a knocking!
I think there is a reading comprehension problem in this thread. I want the same thing...
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GameRager: Is is uncut as well?
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Miaghstir: I'm pretty sure the latest patch (or even before that) adds back all content to the cut versions.
Can I get a quote on this somewhere? Also, how does amazon download work? Do you need an account there like with gog? Thanks in advance.
If you pre-order, you get free stuff, without having to buy the game, ever, that's pretty neat.If you do decide to buy it when it comes out, it'll only be 45 bucks, and that's a very good deal, as well.When you have complete cookie cutter sequels like Black Ops coming out for a full 60 bones, even on the PC, you really have to ask how anybody could be complaining about this.Really.
Okay, there's ONE thing holding me back from pre-ordering: there's no option to pay now and get the $16 and free game right away. Surely it would be a great incentive to make people pre-order here?
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Red_Avatar: Okay, there's ONE thing holding me back from pre-ordering: there's no option to pay now and get the $16 and free game right away. Surely it would be a great incentive to make people pre-order here?
Then people would be taking the 16 bucks and game and cancelling their orders over and over...not gonna happen,