Evangelicals aren't all right-leaning. Not on all issues. There are many very religious folks that are in socioeconomic groups that would suggest they would vote to the left of center.

Well, I don't think the extreme Right was ever pandered to. The extreme Social Right, perhaps, but not fiscal conservatives like me. I would have noticed if anyone had seriously talked about limiting the growth of federally funded entitlements and subsidies. Romney paid it a little lip service, but nothing concrete.

However, the entire contraception fiasco that the Left successfully spun into this huge "War on Women" can certainly be blamed for many lost votes. Certainly, my view on the issue was never voiced by either candidate. My view would have been something like this: "Even if you want to have consensual sex and/or marry a goat, I am fine with it. However, if you get some form of goat-AIDS or some other horrible venereal disease, don't expect me to pay your medical bills or support your lifestyle choice in any other way monetarily."

OK it's 3 AM so time for bed. Sorry if someone said something that I didn't respond to. You can always quote me and I'll try to answer ya later.

Peace to the Middle East, I'm out!

Excellent idea - it's 8:30 am here, I really overdid it.

Good night, y'all!

EDIT: Oh, and this was one of the most relaxed political discussions I ever had on the internet. Goggers really are very friendly people. ;)

Screw you, buddy!

;)

It's funny you say that. Looking at the OP I wouldn't have expected a civil discussion.
Don't hate on corn flakes, bro.
Hey, you can count on us to fuck something up in the near future!

Whether it was Mitt or Obama that won, they are both terrible people to be president.

Anyone jumping up and down like they did in 2008 needs to really think about what America is like today.

I switched on my PC this morning and saw my Facebook wall breathe a sigh of collective relief (aside from a few whingers in certain groups about how they're going to emigate to Canada away from "socialist America" - oh, the irony and ignorance).

It's a great thing, but at the same time, the election has proven just how much intolerance, hatred and division there is in the US on both sides of the political divide. Just looking at Twitter, I'm seeing half of the electorate being called "retards", threats of emigration, mentions of homosexual conspiracies and racist rants about Obama being black and Kenyan (yes, birthers apparently do still exist).

"United we stand" is a hollow mantra that America could never really lay claim to. The only time America was ever truly united was in 2001.

USA! USA! USA!

(I agree with you.)

Oh crap. It happened. Someone made a post that I unequivocally and totally agree with; 100%. The trouble is that, from my point of view, the U.S. is heading for a meltdown in the next 10 years or so. The polarization is bad now, but I think it is only going to get worse. People have blinders on now and refuse to acknowledge that something has got to give.

The economy hasn't, and probably will not, rebounded as quickly and as broadly as most people hope. Meanwhile, the huge elephant in the room, federal deficit spending, is being ignored. Eventually, There is going to be a huge fight, with words or fists, in the U.S. between the wealthy and the poor, and between the elderly and the young. The longer it takes, the worse things will be once we arrive at that point, and the more entrenched, and possibly violent, each side will have become.

This is just my view, and I am admitted fairly pessimistic about it. ;)

Some of the best post-election pictures flooding my Facebook news feed right now:

Exactly. We are still a center-right country fiscally, without question. Running a socially progressive small government conservative would DEMOLISH the opposition. They do not do this because of a good old boy network that opposes it, which they HAVE ti get rid of.

If they are smart they will run Christie or someone like him without any silly attempt to force him to pander to religious nuts and old men.

It exists the way it does for a reason though. We're a union of states, we can't be summed-up on one big popular vote count. If you think places like Alaska are irrelevant now just wait until they're .04 of the electorate and completely irrelevant.

Unless we dramatically move away from states' rights, which would take generations, the electoral college isn't going anywhere.

Well after saying I would not vote this time (for President) a few weeks ago I filled out my absentee ballot and voted for Obama. In 2000 I took a principled stance and voted for Nader to make a point and this lead to our country nearly collapsing in on itself. There were no third party candidates running which would have made a Romney term anything other than a literal horror for 99% of America.

I truly wonder right now whether it is any easier or more feasible to elect a Liberal third party candidate than it would be to change the Democratic party to be a Liberal one.

Now where is that 'Liberty' guy with the bold predictions about a Romeny landslide...?

Elections should be settled with cage matches.

Republican leadership have vowed to support it too, last I read. Honestly the risk of pissing off the Latino vote is way too strong to try and block it.

It will take tons of time and formality but I would guess we have our 51st state.

Honestly, I already think we have. Perhaps not to the extent you mean, but I believe that the federal government has been stepping all over the 10th Amendment since the 1860s.
Woo! New flags! wait... who is going to pay for all the new flags at federal buildings....

Us!