We had some talks in pm, and i really regret seeing you continued with this, like on grunthos64.
I would be a hypocrit saying i did not call out on certain scammers but i had very solid proof when i did, you call out on people where proof is thin or minimal because grunthos did give out stuff.
Regardless i really believe posting parts of a pm is simply not done and is called private for a reason, and this is the opposite of what you are trying to do and you become the bully instead of protecting the victims.
This is just turning out into witch hunts and is not doing the forum any favors either, on the contrary.

Alright. Let me see if I have this (it's 3 am over here, I'm a little fuzzy). So Tarnicus asked Grunthos64 via pms if he/she actually did host giveaways. Grunthos64 replied yes. Links prove that Grunthos64 did in fact do giveaways. Then the matter was basically settled. Then Grunthos64 posted in here, a gifting thread, about Tarnicus, and then Tarnicus responded, and then DyNaer sent Tarnicus different/more links, which Tarnicus provided to this thread in an effort to maintain transparency.

So. Tarnicus was investigating abusers of GOGlodytes' generosity.
Grunthos64 became a suspect.
Grunthos64 has since been validated.
Grunthos64 brought the matter up in the Ninja thread for whatever reason.
Tarnicus acted to maintain clarity since the matter was now being discussed in public.
And a few people are not fond of Tarnicus posting pms to provide context, since pms are generally assumed to be private unless agreed upon otherwise.
Is that about everything?

Alright, can we move along now? This is a gifting thread after all. Just saying.

Edit: My apologies if I came off gruff/sarcastic, I actually was curious if I had missed anything and mean no offense.

Christ, same old pattern. Did you notice that the game he used for the giveaway, Rush Bros, was being GIVEN away for FREE from GMG? So he uses a FREE game to run his first giveaway, at the same time that GMG is giving them away? F' 'n A'!

As I see it right now, Venhiem has, over the last couple of days, stated that he wants a different rep around here. Maybe some won't forget his past, maybe some will. He's running a giveaway, I gave him some advice, he's responded well. So I'm giving him a clean slate for the time being, and not judging him on his past... for the moment. Time will tell if he learns or goes back to his old behavior.

I'm glad that you've dug this stuff up about him because it shows just how deep of a sheister he's been in the past, which extends beyond the GOG realm. But, that's the past. He's expressed desire to turn things around, at least here (I don't care what he does on Steam because I'm not a fan of that service or community).

Of course nobody has to listen to me, but I implore you guys to give him a chance.... one LAST chance. He probably is young. I was a complete weiner when I was a teenager, arrogant, prideful, selfish, and stupid. Like Tarnicus, I had to the learn the hard-way to be a decent human being, one capable of giving for the joy of it. If he blows it, THEN let his past remain what to judge him by. The Facebook information is exceedingly troubling, but I'll put it over my shoulder for the time-being.

Earlier today, I gave him 3 codes for some indie games to make his giveaway draw more attention. I'm trusting that he won't go off and redeem them himself, or gift them to his friends, or use them as trade bait. It's a small thing, like opening a bank account for an irresponsible child with $50 in it to teach them responsibility. Maybe it's because I know what it's like to be an idiot, and to be bullied, and to want to fit into a community full of cliques (this place is hardly that bad, but still...) or maybe it's just my fatherly instincts and a desire to believe that people can change when they have sufficient reason and a good heart.

Whatever my reasoning, I stand by it as the right thing to do. Let's lay off of him for now and see if he can become a valued member of the community. He obviously has enough time on his hands to be a very productive member, and if those stories have been bullshit than he certainly possesses a creative mind that could turn into a fun person to engage in discussions with around here. Maybe he could become another entertaining character here like Tiny E (no offense Tiny E for comparing you to Venhiem).

All I really know about this situation is that if we, as a community, don't try to forgive, support, guide, and mold the newer, younger users, than we fail as a community completely. We'll fracture, and be part hostile, elitist group that sticks to ourselves and doesn't welcome outsiders, while the other part of the community is nothing but rude inflammatory begging whining lying obnoxious trolls that only look out for themselves, like the rest of the internet. Maybe that's a bit over dramatic, but many good communities have ended up that way.

Now, if he fucks up again, then that's on him, but I won't regret trying to help and giving someone the benefit of the doubt one time.

nvm

OK, thanks for the clarification, I made the mistake to link your "i don't mind being banned" to the PM-matter, not grunthos comment. This combined with all the "sheriff "-talk led me to my high horse-comment. Sorry for that.

And in the spirit of melhelix, the voice of reason, first to reply (and first to not have grabbed a game in a while here) gets Evil Genius (GOG), which I got for free during Insomnia and which I planned to add to my first GA, but what the heck..... :) MAHAYO!

In what way? If you mean that just because I posted an email in public doesn't mean anyone can go and exploit my private profile then yes. If you mean that you too think that my facebook profile shows what he said than I'm sorry but it doesn't.

Other than that thanks for the trust. I won't break it.

This^ +1
I think you summed it up in a good way.

DAMN! Tarni, do your legs look that good in heels IRL?

http://www.gamersgate.com/giftcard/74226A97C2


Pacific Storm Allies (gamersgate gift)

Nice one :) Thanks

Agreed. Enjoy the ninja thread guys, I'll stay out of here :)
I'll message you privately about this irrespective of what I think of you. You're young and lacking an understanding of the internet and how I found your FB profile. Nothing was exploited. You provided everything needed.

Some valuable lessons for all involved here :)

hey tarnicus -- what about me? am i still classified as a bad person or did you change your mind?
tarnicus even if you have good intentions you should really stop investigating other people life and then expose your findings here on the forum -- you are scaring newcomers!

the 1st one saying "i'm stupid" receives a prize

i'm not so no thanks :P

fair enough