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Posted November 24, 2011
Meet Starflight, one of the first great space opera adventures, available here on GOG.com for just $5.99.

Some of you may not know this game but that’s why we write these fascinating articles, right? [url=http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/starflight_1_2]Starflight 1 begins on the planet Arth, when your civilization discovers that they were, in fact, a colony planet of Earth. Excavations into the ancient colony landing sites enable humans to build starships, and set course for new life and new civilizations. You are set to embark on a mission to re-explore space and discover why the Old Empire collapsed. As time goes by and you discover new planets ready to be colonized, discover new lifeforms, and eventually build yourself a proper battleship, an old threat emerges and will humans triumph this time over the mysterious Crystal Planet which endangers the galaxy, or will it all fall to ruin and ashes again?

Gameplay consists of oddly familiar features for the genre, in part because Starflight defined a number of standard elements space opera adventure games. For example, you start out with a ship that is held together with duct tape and baling wire. Most of the cool features aren’t available yet--like weapons. Initially, you will need to get by with mining and trading, but after you’ve paid your dues, things start to get more interesting. When you’ve earned a little cash through hard work you can enroll a crew to man six different posts (each has a direct correlation to your ship’s performance) and upgrade every part of your spaceship. You can also land on planets (but not all of them, some are so high gravity that you will crash if you try). After you touch down safely, you can send a terrain vehicle to travel around the planet for minerals, artifacts, or alien lifeforms (that ring a bell for anyone? :).

The Starflight universe consists of over two hundred stars and several hundred planets to explore, and the Starflight II universe is even bigger. No RPG can be good without random encounters, and you’ll meet aliens of all kinds and shapes. Some will be belligerent, and some will be friendly, and you’ll rarely know until after they’ve fired at you.

Starflight 2 basically takes all the good things from it’s predecessor and improves on it drastically. Following the events of the first game, the galaxy is at relative peace but a race of cowardly, gelatinous blobs gain access to superior technology and it’s your mission to find out how to stop them! The story may start a bit ordinarily, but it definitely ramps up to an exciting finale! If you’re a fan of Starflight--or another game in our catalogue that has you flying around the stars and talking to aliens--you should definitely pick up this incredible two pack for just $5.99 today!
Posted November 24, 2011
No, this is way too old for me!

But all in all, looks like fun.
Posted November 24, 2011
I played throu the Mega Drive version back in the day and it was a great game. The grafics was sertainly better then this, but I don´t know if there where any differens when it comes to gameplay.
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timppu: The games I heard lots about, but never got around to play.

So which platform has the best version of these? I presume PC versions probably don't have any sound card support and at least SF1 is CGA graphics (ack!!!), so how about the Amiga and Sega Genesis versions? Bugginess, graphics, sounds?
Post edited November 24, 2011 by Three4Flinching
Posted November 24, 2011
Heres a great Starflight game to get if you cant afford this one just yet , its really good and its free open source ;)

https://sites.google.com/site/starflighttlc/
Posted November 24, 2011
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summitus: Heres a great Starflight game to get if you cant afford this one just yet , its really good and its free open source ;)

https://sites.google.com/site/starflighttlc/
http://www.gog.com/en/forum/general/new_release_starflight_1_2/post29 ;)
Posted November 24, 2011
Holy crap! GOG, you did it again! this is one of those games that has been on my personal "all-time greatest" list for the longest time and I had long ago given up hope of ever finding a legit copy of it. Instabuy for me!
Posted November 24, 2011
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wvpr: Ooh, tempting! I missed this one first time around. Wish you could get the Genesis version, though, it's 1000x prettier.

Hey, if you're looking this far back, see if you can get ahold of Sentinel Worlds.
And then Hard Nova which I believe was a spiritual successor if not a close to a formal sequel.
Posted November 24, 2011
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Jimmer1: And then Hard Nova which I believe was a spiritual successor if not a close to a formal sequel.
It also has the most amusing anti-piracy rant in the manual. Imagine being a super space mercenary, who discovered that someone cloned him and the clones took all the jobs and got all the money.
Posted November 24, 2011
The guy who entitled his review 'Prelude to Mass Effect..." should be punched. Please don't compare these great classics to Mass Effect.
Posted November 24, 2011
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tonyc_76: Why do we have to accept EA's EULA and what is this online client thing mentioned in the EULA?
The online client is Origin, EA's answer to Steam. It scans your harddrive and does various other nasty things, in addition to not working too well and tying you to an online connection.

That EULA is why I'm not buying this. I don't buy games that I can't own.

If the newer games that GOG is talking about all come with EULAs, I definitely won't buy them and I think a lot of GOG users will avoid them also. I think the GOG team is smart enough to recognize that fact, but these EA EULAs make me a little worried.
Posted November 24, 2011
Do I spy 160x200? I think I do!


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tonyc_76: Why do we have to accept EA's EULA and what is this online client thing mentioned in the EULA?
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HGiles: The online client is Origin, EA's answer to Steam. It scans your harddrive and does various other nasty things, in addition to not working too well and tying you to an online connection.

That EULA is why I'm not buying this. I don't buy games that I can't own.

If the newer games that GOG is talking about all come with EULAs, I definitely won't buy them and I think a lot of GOG users will avoid them also. I think the GOG team is smart enough to recognize that fact, but these EA EULAs make me a little worried.
Origin has nothing to do with this, EA is just too lazy to take that stuff out. The games on GOG are DRM-free as always so you 'own' the games as much as is possible (without actually buying the rights, that would be owning the game :P).
Post edited November 24, 2011 by SirPrimalform
Posted November 24, 2011
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SirPrimalform: Do I spy 160x200? I think I do!


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HGiles: The online client is Origin, EA's answer to Steam. It scans your harddrive and does various other nasty things, in addition to not working too well and tying you to an online connection.

That EULA is why I'm not buying this. I don't buy games that I can't own.

If the newer games that GOG is talking about all come with EULAs, I definitely won't buy them and I think a lot of GOG users will avoid them also. I think the GOG team is smart enough to recognize that fact, but these EA EULAs make me a little worried.
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SirPrimalform: Origin has nothing to do with this, EA is just too lazy to take that stuff out. The games on GOG are DRM-free as always so you 'own' the games as much as is possible (without actually buying the rights, that would be owning the game :P).
The EULA specifically states we get a limited-use license to install the game, which is definitely not what we get with other GOG games. There is a legal difference and it's a pretty big one.

Now, there probably isn't any DRM software included. Which means this GOG version is exactly the same as a pirate version. I consider copyright law as it stands to be immoral and illegal (contradicts Constitution in various ways, etc), so I'm just fine with that. But it's not the same as owning a copy of the game.
Post edited November 24, 2011 by HGiles
Posted November 24, 2011
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HGiles: The EULA specifically states we get a limited-use license to install the game, which is definitely not what we get with other GOG games. There is a legal difference and it's a pretty big one.

Now, there probably isn't any DRM software included. Which means this GOG version is exactly the same as a pirate version. I consider copyright law as it stands to be immoral and illegal (contradicts Constitution in various ways, etc), so I'm just fine with that. But it's not the same as owning a copy of the game.
The point I was trying to make is that this EULA has no effect on how much you own the game because there's no DRM. You never own any games, even if you have a DRM-free hard copy, you just have a licence. But if you count that as owning then I don't see how you own this any less.

If you want to deprive yourself of a game because of a completely unenforceable and irrelevant line in an EULA then be my guest. :P

EDIT: What exactly do you think you get when you buy other games on GOG? Surely you don't think you're buying the game itself? You're getting a limited use licence then too.
Company grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable license to use the Program, but retains all property rights in the Program and all copies thereof. This Program is licensed, not sold, for your personal, non-commercial use. Your license confers no title or ownership in this Program and should not be construed as any sale of any rights in this Program. You may not transfer, distribute, rent, sub-license, or lease the Program or documentation, except as provided herein; alter, modify, or adapt the Program or documentation, or portions thereof including, but not limited to, translation, decompiling or disassembling.
Straight from GOG's standard EULA. I'm pretty sure it constitutes limited use, right?
Post edited November 24, 2011 by SirPrimalform
Posted November 24, 2011
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Fel1: How much is StarForce II similar to these two games? I didn't really like it, finding some places seemed just too much random given the sheer size of the galaxy.
There is no game I can find called StarForce II. Please confirm.

In other news, AAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Starflight! The games I've wanted GoG to have since I first HEARD of the concept of GoG! These games are amazing people. If you've not played them, and like space games IN ANY WAY, play them now.
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Metro09: The guy who entitled his review 'Prelude to Mass Effect..." should be punched. Please don't compare these great classics to Mass Effect.
Right? I hate that...
Post edited November 24, 2011 by Veloxi
Posted November 24, 2011
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SirPrimalform: If you want to deprive yourself of a game because of a completely unenforceable and irrelevant line in an EULA then be my guest. :P
If you break the EULA you are just as much of a pirate as somebody that breaks DRM. You are playing with an illegal copy. Rationalize it away if you want, but there is no difference.

So "if you want to deprive yourself of a game because of a completely unenforceable and irrelevant line of code then be my guest. :P"
Posted November 24, 2011
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Fel1: How much is StarForce II similar to these two games? I didn't really like it, finding some places seemed just too much random given the sheer size of the galaxy.
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Veloxi: There is no game I can find called StarForce II. Please confirm.
I meant StarControl II, though I did correct the mistake. But it's a bit strange that you missed the post as it was on the same page.
Post edited November 24, 2011 by Fel1
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