eeh, tell me about it. i guess i forgot to include F3 in my list because F1 and 2 are not my faves although i liked them, so F3 could go F itself for all i cared lol

In my opinion:

Zelda: Ocarina of Time
FFVII
FallOut 3
Halo
Half-Life
Portal

I actually like these games (except for Halo) but they are overrated, I blame the fans.

I'll edit the post if I remember some more games

Well, before I played DA2 I read like 4 reviews, and they were largely positive. Slighly lower grades than DA1, and a "not as good as Origins, but still a solid game" attached to it. I then played DA2 and was so disappointed I never looked back, so I really have only reviewers' opinions to base it on. It's great that people are in agreement, I thought people thought this was almost as "epic" as the first one. :)

Another game that got favorable reviews was Killzone 3. That game is the most standard shooter I've ever played, and considering the extreme resemblance to Killzone 1 and 2, I think it deserves 5/10 at most.

What about:
[Science] This is unnatural. You should kill yourself.

Weep.

Here's some moans about Daikatana I don't think anyone else has made in this thread yet

1 When I played through it (and I did play through it, even used GameFAQs to find all the Dopefish) I ended up having to use a level skip cheat to avoid a system crash (or it might have just been the game that crashed out) when I got to this part where a wizard I was chasing went and ran up a tree - serious, NPC in a tree = system crash, not very professional!

2 The Quake 3 engine always seemed a bit chunky and clunky to me, which is why I always preferred Unreal Tourney over Q3A, might mean that Q3A is also an overrated game or it may be a personal, YMMV thing, althought I think this whole thread is a bit YMMV, really

3 Western developers should leave Japanese, Anime-esque settings to the Japanese - they are either going to miss the mark or seem like they're taking the piss - See also: Shogo (which I played all the way through, too, admittedly)

The kind of whining both of you are providing over a symbolic gesture is what I find more distressing than the idea of being down-repped.  There are no community rules as to why you can or cannot down or up rep someone's post.  In fact, there is only a few, very general advisories, one of which is simply, "negative feedback... will cost you some rep points" (cut for brevity). If you find a post is "below your viewing threshold", simply click to show the post, and that you should disagree with it's down-repping you can simply give it some positive reputation.  No need for drama.

In addition, I find community guidelines broken on a regular basis, in particular "stay on topic", which I may unfortunately be contributing to with this post.  You have also rather conveniently seem to have skipped over the posts which submit possible reasons for a low rating.  Complaints such as the mislabeling of "Giants", or the casual dismissal of the entire platforming genre (especially annoying when the topic he entered with was the most overrated games of all time).  But since you make such demands for altruism, observe my open offer:

OP: If you edit your opening post such as to remove the offending third section and fix the "Giants" title, I will gladly give you positive reputation.

Hopefully that was satisfactory, and without further theatrics:

OT: I agree with many commenters that "Ocarina of Time" is overrated.  The update offered by Nintendo for its 3DS seems hardly substantial for its asking price.  Eurogamer gave the title a ten out of ten and wasn't alone in offering glowing reviews for this update of a decade old game.  The game has been offered several times now, including as a package with other games for the GameCube.  I feel they should be upping the ante including more Zelda games yet.  Was OoT good for its time?  Sure, but it has since been surpassed several times, by both WindWaker and Majora's Mask, just within its own franchise.  This isn't even getting into the game's flaws.  Gamers, normally a fickle bunch, fawned over it as if a precious metal.  The game has been available in a perfectly playable state on the Wii Virtual Console for a couple years now at a lower entry fee, I mean come on.

Hmm.. Most overrated game of all time? All i can say that the most overrated game of the last 10 years is probably Mass effect 2, more i play it the more i dislike it.

I have completed Me1 at least 6 times and with Me2 i have managed to complete it once just because of the story and i dislike pretty much everything about it.

Final Fantasy VII

Fallout 3, off the top of my head. Nothing about that game agreed with me. The horrible engine, the animations, the shiny potato faces, the cluttered inventory, the exploitable VATS system, the stupidity of the main quest, the asinine writing, the saint-satan morality, the blandness of it all and much, much more.
I've yet to properly play New Vegas, it's supposedly better at least in the writing department.

New Vegas seems to be liked by fans of the originals. I agree with everything that you say about FO3, but I simply couldn't get into NV due to the horrendous engine. It still looks and feels like shit. And the idiotic combat. If you play on high difficulty, simple enemies take like 10 shots in the face from a sniper at a point blank range in order to die and at a lower difficulty they are simply not a challenge. VATS is still ridiculously overpowered. In other words, it's still unpolished as fuck, but I see that first and foremost as Bethesda's (un)doing, rather than Obsidian's failure. In terms of content, NV is supposed to be on par with the originals so if you can look past pretty much everything engine and art limited, give it a go.

FO:NV was the game that FO3 should have been. The writing was a lot better, there were fewer of those characters that you just wanted to stab repeatedly. Moire and those dinks from Lamplight spring instantly to mind.

And yes, the interactions were a lot deeper, it got annoying at times because you had to pick sides, you could be mildly liked by most of the good factions or most of the bad ones, but you had to deliberately seek a middle ground and not be too helpful.

One of the most significant improvements of FO3 was that the characters actually have character, they don't all sound alike.

But, then again FO:NV did benefit from a lot of the work that had gone into Van Buren, so I'm not sure how much they should be allowed credit for that, as this is in many ways the rebirth of that particular project.

A lot of people of the original BIS/ Troika crew worked on NV while "Fallout" 3 was developed by the bright minds who work at Bethesda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Isle_Studios#Closure

FTFY

I dont know, something just annoys me about the entire series. I just find the experience dull, which is saying something because I've played through various Final Fantasy games! Maybe its the barren wastelands and endless side quests (fallout 3 nearly drove me mad over a weekend while I forced myself to play it).
I think I enjoyed Fallout tactics because it was focused, you are a soldier, you have objectives, go do them.
Endless wandering does not make a good game imo.

If I made Fallout 3 it would probably play like Rage, lol.

Darkchild

Agreed with all this.

I stuck through FO3, and even had fun with it, but much of it was very soul-less and dull, with a few exceptions. The best part was definitely the Point Lookout DLC.

FO:NV fixed most of my gripes.