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GameRager: Oh YES there ARE overrated games.....ET for Atari, for example. ;)
I'm probably damned for admitting this, but I actually liked the ET Game. Course I was 7 at the time and didn't have alot of videogames to play.

But does show once again. To each his own.
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El_Double: And what's with the immortal main character? "Oh no I just died!!! Oh wait a second, nevermind..."
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lukaszthegreat: Everything else you said is matter of taste. I don't agree but that does not make you wrong or makes me right.


Quoted part....

Tell me about SINGLE game where your character is not immortal. Just one (flash game does not count)

I just need one title where your character can die.
Um, I kinda meant that whenever you're killed you're reborn, while your party members might still be fighting the very same critter that killed you. "Immortal" was probably a bad choice to describe it since the main char can die, he's just immediately reborn and so dying doesn't really affect the gameplay in the sense that you don't have to be afraid of getting the main char killed.
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RottenRotz: i mean....you gotta be kidding me..youre kidding,right?RIGHT??

fallout 3 has to do with rpg as much as jim carrey has with nuclear science
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GameRager: You have an inventory and go through a world talking and helping(or hurting) people while advancing your skills.....so while it's not RPG heavy it is still part rpg, and also part FPS, and part whatever else it has.
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Titanium: Eeeh, don't have the time or energy to go through the full (though perhaps well written and intelligent) thread, but I'd just like to say that there is no such thing as an overrated game. Games have a purpose, and that is to entertain us and take our mind on a roller coaster ride rather than bore it to stiffness on other things. That said, if x number of people things that a game is awesome, how can the y group of people tell them that game is overrated and they shouldn't enjoy it. A bunch of pompous asses, if you ask me. Like all the threads where someone glorifies a game, another shits over it, and a flame war erupts. Just stupid, really. Not saying you're stupid for pointing out that a game is overrated, but I go by the roman proverb that one cannot discuss tastes.
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GameRager: Oh YES there ARE overrated games.....ET for Atari, for example. ;)
Do you have to reply to every post with useless drivel?
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KalarMacBran: Oh YES there ARE overrated games.....ET for Atari, for example. ;)
That would mean the game is hailed as great by many, and had a bunch of positive reviews.
I think it tanked pretty quick.;P
Nowdays it's just a "cult classic", which doesn't overrate it much.;>
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lukaszthegreat: Nope

your character is immortal
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Roberttitus: I don't know if you are being sarcastic or you have just never played Heavy Rain....

Nevertheless I have thought of another terribly overated game.... Metal Gear Solid 4.

The flow of the game

30 minute cutscene- 10 minutes of action- 10 minute cutscene- 10 minutes of action- 10 minute cutscene- 5 minutes of action- 15 minute cutscene- Boss fight- Repeat.

It gets fucking old.
Heavy Rain is great tech demo, but ultimately fails as a game, IMO.
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GameRager: Oh YES there ARE overrated games.....ET for Atari, for example. ;)
Well, yes, I guess somebody liked it. Hopefully without paying for it :-)
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drmlessgames: Do you have to reply to every post with useless drivel?
I loled
Post edited January 10, 2011 by Roberttitus
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GameRager: Underrated a better term?
For ET? No, 'bad' is enough. ;)
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Arteveld: - Mass Effect.
- FFVII.
- StarCraft.
- CoDs.
- BioShock.
And from some older stuff, The Settlers 2.
It's interesting that 3 of those games would be my favourite games of all time.

Movin' on glad I'm not the only one who thought hald life was a bit bland.
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Roberttitus: you must not be thinking very hard :^)
Uh, if you say so.
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Salsa_Shark: Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines.
Starcraft.
Baldurs Gate 1 & 2.
Battlefield 2.
Supreme Commander.
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GameRager: This has got to be a joke.....most of that list are some of the best games of all time on gog and elsewhere, in their respective genres.
Some people are clearly just listing high profile games they don't like, I'm not really sure that was the question though.
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El_Double: Um, I kinda meant that whenever you're killed you're reborn, while your party members might still be fighting the very same critter that killed you. "Immortal" was probably a bad choice to describe it since the main char can die, he's just immediately reborn and so dying doesn't really affect the gameplay in the sense that you don't have to be afraid of getting the main char killed.
the thing is...

In heavy rain if you die the story can either continue as the death is just part of the story. like that chick's death in FF. can be avoided tough.
But if you screw up too much

if you screw up in thousands of other games...

there is a button for rewinding time. its officially called load button.

You don't have to be afraid of getting your character killed in practically ANY game. In heavy rain and few others death of characters just mean gameplay will be a bit different from now on.

so...
dieing sometimes does affect gameplay like in Heavy Rain or handful of other games. It is never permanent tough. in 99% of games.... whether it is PST or BG or Half life or Need for Speed.
Death is meaningless.
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GameRager: Though the WAYS in which that "immortality" is portrayed or used in gameplay mechanics can be key to making a game good or bad.
True. That's why PST is superior in that way as the immortality which is present in almost every game is so much better portrayed as it allows skipping the annoying parts, is used as part of the plot and as a game mechanic.

much better than traveling in time with your characters.
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Egotomb: It's interesting that 3 of those games would be my favourite games of all time.
Well, the way i see it, favorite=taste, taste =/= overall quality. Add to that the fact, we're talking about, what should be, objective opinions of critics. So, i wouldn't feel bad if someone pointed out 5 of my fav games.[i wish someone had]
It won't matter much, separating taste from quality, gives a lot of breathing space. I had a few friends who were really offended when i criticized [after being asked for an opinion] something they like. After some years they've accepted the fact, that they are entitled to like something, that is not necessarily good.;) It's also very liberating to say "it's a piece of s$$t, but i enjoy every bit of it".
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lukaszthegreat: Death is meaningless.
Unless you are playing a rougelike or a game with a similar save-game setup.