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bevinator: Here's an interesting example. I could go to the police station, tell them that you attacked me, and have you arrested.
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XmXFLUXmX: That wouldn't happen in reality. They would see that you've got no blood on you, or any scratches, and they would immediately think you're lying. Officers have a discerning wit to them you know. Do you think they believe anything as long as somebody says it?
Here is something to think on: 1. One could say that they didn't tell the police straight away because you feared the attacker would attack you again

2. The person could injure themselves to make it look like a crime has actually been commited

3. Officers are human and prone to mistake.
Me thinks OP murdered a murderer
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xXShaddowTXx: Me thinks OP murdered a murderer
Or working on a screenplay
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xXShaddowTXx: Me thinks OP murdered a murderer
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michaelleung: Or working on a screenplay
Released ages ago called Dexter.
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michaelleung: Or working on a screenplay
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Nroug7: Released ages ago called Dexter.
Yeah but it sucked. It was like watching a car crash over the course of six seasons.
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Nroug7: Released ages ago called Dexter.
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michaelleung: Yeah but it sucked. It was like watching a car crash over the course of six seasons.
Sometimes, even that would be more interesting.
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michaelleung: Yeah but it sucked. It was like watching a car crash over the course of six seasons.
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Nroug7: Sometimes, even that would be more interesting.
Which is why I like to deliberately run into cars on dual carriageways and run away.
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Nroug7: Sometimes, even that would be more interesting.
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michaelleung: Which is why I like to deliberately run into cars on dual carriageways and run away.
i love your avatar
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bevinator: Here's an interesting example. I could go to the police station, tell them that you attacked me, and have you arrested.
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XmXFLUXmX: That wouldn't happen in reality. They would see that you've got no blood on you, or any scratches, and they would immediately think you're lying. Officers have a discerning wit to them you know. Do you think they believe anything as long as somebody says it?
Yes, FAPAs are granted as a matter of course in elected judge states. No element of truth has to be demonstrated. Any family law attorney (no matter what type of person they typically represent) will dismissively declare that 50% of FAPAs are completely made up and/or spurious at a minimum. Cops aren't really great people in general, less great than judges, in fact. That you think they are indicates you might not have known any or simply that you think brutishness and nastiness is deserved.

And lol at "good people don't go to prison". You need to visit your local county jail. You really do. I hope you have the human decency to be ashamed at the treatment there.
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XmXFLUXmX: At this point, you would have to place faith in what rapists and murderers tell you, over the legal system. It is better that 1 innocent man is put in prison so the criminals of the world can join him, rather than have all of the criminals on the planet set loose upon society.

But the fact of the matter, is that there is an incredibly high probability that there is not a single soul in prison that is innocent.
Actually, our forensic tools kinda suck and given the crudeness of the methods used during regular police work, it's not that hard to deduce that there are probably many innocent individuals sitting in a cell right now.

Roughly speaking, about 50% of serious crimes are solved and in those 50%, dreadfully obvious cases are included (eg, security camera taped the whole thing).

Given the above, the number of convictions that are closed with anything approaching the degree of certainty found in a show like say, CSI, is close to null.

Heck, if the prosecution's cases were always so airtight, it wouldn't take months (and sometimes years) to prosecute serious offenders.

And then, there is always the human element during police work. I've heard of enough horror stories about cops pursuing their own private vendettas (sometimes openly lying or messing with the evidence) to know that policemen are not perfect, especially when the pressure is on to close a "hot" case.
Post edited March 03, 2012 by Magnitus
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XmXFLUXmX: Wrong, some people are just lazy scumbags, why would some drug addict or violent criminal with no hope be against free food, free housing, free medical care, and all of the drugs and perverted sex he could want?
Actually, my mother worked in a prison teaching computer sciences to prisoners and believe me, the vast majority of prisoners want out.

You are over fixating on the 1%.

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XmXFLUXmX: Why would you possibly want to salvage a child killer, a rapist, a pedophile, a serial killer, or the rest of the violent whackjobs? What possible gain is there for society?
They tend to have issues that set them back.

However, defining them solely by those issues alone is taking a dangerously tilted view.

And btw, most inmates are not killers or rapists and most killers & rapists are not serial ones.

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XmXFLUXmX: If the murderer has kids, they will have the same genes that helped dad enjoy a life of crime and violence.
Actually, you're barking up the wrong tree if you want to make a case about genetic determinism.

I met my biological father at the age of 23 and except for some mannerisms, looks and a creative mind, we didn't have much in common.

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XmXFLUXmX: What kind of economics? Marxist-Socialism? If you want a prosperous economy, you take care of the citizens, not the criminals.
Criminals are citizens that went off course at some point.

Some of them are sociopaths and should be behind bars for the rest of their lives, but most aren't.

They have the potential to live out productive lives, make friends, have a family and contribution to society in a meaningful way.

Btw, getting them all the way to adulthood was a significant social investment from a lot of people.

Their parents, for starters, but also the school system and health care.

The economic incentive to set them back on the right track is high.