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http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/rpg-banned-in-australia-sex-and-drugs-to-blame/
Another one bites the dust, this is just getting fucking stupid. Wasn't really aware of this game before now but apparently now I won't ever be...
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Aliasalpha: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/rpg-banned-in-australia-sex-and-drugs-to-blame/
Another one bites the dust, this is just getting fucking stupid. Wasn't really aware of this game before now but apparently now I won't ever be...

It's absurd that a game can be denied classification anywhere. They really do need and 18+ in Australia; it just seems like the government* is being stupid.
*Or whatever does the classifications in Australia, I'm pretty sure it's the government.
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Aliasalpha: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/rpg-banned-in-australia-sex-and-drugs-to-blame/
Another one bites the dust, this is just getting fucking stupid. Wasn't really aware of this game before now but apparently now I won't ever be...

Dude whats wrong with your country... Germany as well.
I'm assuming there is no problem classifying this stuff when it appears in movies or books?
I thought you were talking about GOG in general.. but yes, I agree.
Games = not serious = childish = for children
Therefore no sex or extreme violence unless of couse whoever it is thats reviewing it for the OFLC doesn't really object. Its a very dodgy process thats rife with inconsistency and a lack of clear direction and thats the reason you can chainsaw locust in half in full graphic detail but morphine was removed from Fallout 3 on fear of it being refused classification
The thing that really annoys me is that this does NOTHING but promote piracy and the importing that doesn't help local businesses
Post edited August 10, 2009 by Aliasalpha
There's a lot of complicated things going into this sort of censorship
Firstly, there is no guarantee in our constitution; it noly gives us the right to organisation and the right to vote (unless you're living in the ACT like me, where you have a Bill of Rights)
Secondly, the OFLC is pretty much getting a beatdown. Some games and themes that shouldve been rated R18+ or even banned are not. Give them a break; I mean, within their operating limits they're doing alright. The fact is that if a game is good enough, it'll get through with a few concessions (all they did in Fallout 3 was take out a few words like "morphene". I sthat so bad?). Second go, they should be in
I agree with you though, but the reality is that is the bill is proposed through parliament witout the review of the court., thenn it's going to be refuse
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Aliasalpha: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/rpg-banned-in-australia-sex-and-drugs-to-blame/
Another one bites the dust, this is just getting fucking stupid. Wasn't really aware of this game before now but apparently now I won't ever be...
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BladderOfDoom: Dude whats wrong with your country... Germany as well.
I'm assuming there is no problem classifying this stuff when it appears in movies or books?

I'd be interested in that, actually.
I know Germany (and a lot of the EU) censors books quite openly (especially when they relate to the holocaust or Naziism). France also had a ban on books detailing suicide & euthanasia (they still might).
A few years back, someone visiting me from overseas remarked that I had the most "illegal" books he'd ever seen (of course, that was in his country, not America where eclectic taste in books isn't a crime yet). Ah, gotta love those socialist, book-burning EU folks.
Crazy ass country.
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prakaa: all they did in Fallout 3 was take out a few words like "morphene". I sthat so bad?

The stupid lack of defined standards caused an artist to change their work to avoid official censure.
YES thats so bad!!
I agree completely that its a completely irrelevant bit of useless crap but its the principle of the thing
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prakaa: all they did in Fallout 3 was take out a few words like "morphene". I sthat so bad?
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Aliasalpha: The stupid lack of defined standards caused an artist to change their work to avoid official censure.
YES thats so bad!!
I agree completely that its a completely irrelevant bit of useless crap but its the principle of the thing

Agree, completely.
Fwiw, though, the people who wrote your Constitution should have cheated off of ours and put a BIll of Rights. *Points at your tiny freedom and laughs*
Well we point and laugh at the ambiguity of your second amendment (and how so many of the gun problems might have been avoided by the addition of the words "when the nation is under imminent threat of invasion") so its probably fair enough
You have my sympathy.
But really, i think adult aussie gamers need to actually DO SOMETHING rather than just post on the web. there seem to be enough of you that you could get things changed, if you went about it the right way.
Things won't change on their own, i'm afraid.
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cioran: Ah, gotta love those socialist, book-burning EU folks.

What is this, "Jaywalking" on the old Tonight Show? You're talking about 27 completely different countries, with vastly different laws and governments.
Denmark, for instance, has some of the laxest (is that a word?) censorship laws in the world. In 1969, Denmark became the first country in the world to legalize pornography. Don't make stupid generalizations when you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Wishbone: What is this, "Jaywalking" on the old Tonight Show? You're talking about 27 completely different countries, with vastly different laws and governments.
Denmark, for instance, has some of the laxest (is that a word?) censorship laws in the world. In 1969, Denmark became the first country in the world to legalize pornography. Don't make stupid generalizations when you have no idea what you're talking about.

I think you're reading a different interpretation from what (I hope) cioran meant to say. I think he meant to say that you "gotta love those socialist, book-burning folks that happen to be from the EU", not that you "gotta love the EU, which is comprised solely of socialist, book-burning folks". Of course, if I'm wrong on what he intended to say, I do apologize; that was merely how I read it to be.
I just assumed it was a joke
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soulgrindr: You have my sympathy.
But really, i think adult aussie gamers need to actually DO SOMETHING rather than just post on the web. there seem to be enough of you that you could get things changed, if you went about it the right way.
Things won't change on their own, i'm afraid.

Oh trust me we've tried. The issue is the south australian attorney general being deliberately obstructionate. The OFLC can't introduce a new rating without unanimous approval from all the state AGs, if even one objects then its automatically rejected. Hell I'm the laziest bastard you'll ever find and even I ended up spending a week writing a well researched letter that even went as far as to provide a rough financial analysis of the loss of money for businesses in his state and the country as a whole (I was trying to go for another angle rather than the usual ones he'd get about parental controls, free speech and OMFG D13 J00 PR1C|<!!11)
Sadly since its state politics only the people in south australia can change things, no matter how many of us in the rest of the country want it to change, we can't do a damn thing about it unless we up and move to SA in time for their next state election
Post edited August 11, 2009 by Aliasalpha