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i buy alot of games from foreign countries. Uk and Usa being the main ones.
It's quite cheaper in comparison with prices in belgium.
i was a bit avoiding at first but i've never had a problem so far.
So go ahead try it prefarrably using paypal.
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Ois: I have had packages containing books ordered from New Zealand (cheaper) checked a few times, the package ends up with a big 'APPROVED!'

Yeah customs and security seem to get very paranoid over books. Immediately after the Glasgow airport bombing
(which was in fact hilarious in that despite loading a land rover full of explosives and driving it full pelt at the entrance only succeeded in killing the driver, badly burning the passenger and leaving very little collateral damage. Of coure the media kept reffering to it as an 'evil master plan'... You know I think everyone has completely forgotten the years of highly effective bombing campaigns and assassination the various groups in ireland put the UK through. But I digress...)
they banned books (and alot of other things but very specificaly books) being brought anywhere near planes. cos you know. they often explode...
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BladderOfDoom: ...they banned books (and a lot of other things but very specifically books) being brought anywhere near planes. cos you know. they often explode...

There is some method to the madness.
Fallible Memory Go!: Back in 1999 (I would of been, 16 or so and I have trouble remembering last week...), I was stopped on entering the UK at Heathrow airport by security due to a 'block' on the bag scanner. Turns out it was a couple of novellas packed together. Books create a solid block they can't see past, so hiding anything between them (or inside) is a possibility.
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Aliasalpha: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/08/rpg-banned-in-australia-sex-and-drugs-to-blame/
Another one bites the dust, this is just getting fucking stupid. Wasn't really aware of this game before now but apparently now I won't ever be...

We need them all, then the Australian people can unite under the banner of GOG! We must rally them to the field of battle where nudity does not equal porno, but can be compared to such words as "tasteful" and "beautiful". Where violence cant be compared to... uhm... and...
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BladderOfDoom: Dude whats wrong with your country... Germany as well.
I'm assuming there is no problem classifying this stuff when it appears in movies or books?
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cioran: I'd be interested in that, actually.
I know Germany (and a lot of the EU) censors books quite openly (especially when they relate to the holocaust or Naziism). France also had a ban on books detailing suicide & euthanasia (they still might).
A few years back, someone visiting me from overseas remarked that I had the most "illegal" books he'd ever seen (of course, that was in his country, not America where eclectic taste in books isn't a crime yet). Ah, gotta love those socialist, book-burning EU folks.

Ahm, you don't really know germany, because in that case you wouldn't combine book burning and socialist in one phrase. Also you don't really understand why there are some books (Mein Kampf, Holocaust lies etc.) are forbidden for sale. Maybe you should take a deeper look on germanys past and maybe talk to some jewish people. This books are not allowed for public sale because they discriminate and offened other people. By the way, you will find some of this books without problems in special libraries for historical education. So when you are really interested in history, there is no problem to read them.
Yes, there is also censorship on extreme violence in movies and games, but on the other hand there is no problem with bad language or more sexual content. About sense or nonsense of this we can discuss.
Post edited August 11, 2009 by DukeNukemForever
What about the swastika usage, its okay for documentaries but not entertainment or something like that?
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cioran: I'd be interested in that, actually.
I know Germany (and a lot of the EU) censors books quite openly (especially when they relate to the holocaust or Naziism). France also had a ban on books detailing suicide & euthanasia (they still might).
A few years back, someone visiting me from overseas remarked that I had the most "illegal" books he'd ever seen (of course, that was in his country, not America where eclectic taste in books isn't a crime yet). Ah, gotta love those socialist, book-burning EU folks.
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DukeNukemForever: Ahm, you don't really know germany, because in that case you wouldn't combine book burning and socialist in one phrase. Also you don't really understand why there are some books (Mein Kampf, Holocaust lies etc.) are forbidden for sale. Maybe you should take a deeper look on germanys past and maybe talk to some jewish people. This books are not allowed for public sale because they discriminate and offened other people. By the way, you will find some of this books without problems in special libraries for historical education. So when you are really interested in history, there is no problem to read them.
Yes, there is also censorship on extreme violence in movies and games, but on the other hand there is no problem with bad language or more sexual content. About sense or nonsense of this we can discuss.

Hate to break it to you, but censorship and rampant government media control (and education control) was one of the things that got the Germans to Naziism in the first place. Ditto on the Soviets and Stalinistic authoritarianism (he banned books, too). Big Brother has nothing to do with left or right. Also, Fascistic movements (with the exceptions of Apartheid and debatably, Naziism) have marked similarities with Marxism in practice (theoretically, Marxism is libertarian socialist proletarian, but in practice it's always authoritarian/agrarian), specifically in collectivization. totalitarianism, repression, state religion statism, and overall irrationality. Read A.J. Gregor some time.
Also, from what I'm aware, the US doesn't have any out and out Fascists elected to office or mainstream Fascist political parties that have ever gotten much more than <1% of the vote. Can't say that about countries with censorship e.g. Australia, France (Poujad, Le Pen, et al), Germany. I mean actual out and out "I heart Nazis and Benito" fascists. I'm not getting into semantics over whether mainstream gov't's are fascistic.
In the US, we see these people for what they are - nutjobs. No veil of secrecy or mystery helps their cause. Sadly, even the US is moving more and more away from this freedom of speech, but it's still there.
So some books offend people? Big deal. The most offensive thing to me is covering up history or art for the sake of a few bruised egos. That kind of paternalism and nanny statism infuriates me.
Post edited August 11, 2009 by cioran
Off topic, I don't mind the thread being re-titled (it was meant as a bit of a subtle joke since sex was part of the issue) but I object most strongly to it being spelled WRONG!
Only one L in holy... Tsk tsk tsk for shame!

Hate to break it to you, but censorship and rampant government media control (and education control) was one of the things that got the Germans to Naziism in the first place.

Correct me if I'm wrong but i thought it was repercussions of the first war that drove the Germans to elect the Nazi party. France taking all of Germanys' resources to rebuild their own country, the great depression, the treaty of versailles, and their territory being given up to other countries
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cioran: Hate to break it to you, but censorship and rampant government media control (and education control) was one of the things that got the Germans to Naziism in the first place.

Well that and it was REALLY easy to inflame public opinion when germany was practically destroyed by unrealistic post-war reparations that basically left no money to rebuild society. In a climate like that any voice promising change would be welcome
Gamersgate.com will sell it to you come oct 2. http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-RISEN/risen
Quick australia!, ban the internet! you can read about drugs and murders there.
Post edited August 11, 2009 by Epsilon
Sorry, but narcism wasn't a educational problem or a result of censorhip. Many people try to understand why so many educated people became nazis or accept their politics. It's an difficult and complex subject and will be discussed intensively today. And yes, you can find censorship especially on extreme and totalitarian systems. It's not only a special problem of fascism, but you wrote about germany, book burning and about social european folks. Many liberal social people died also in Nazi-Germany, so that's why I wrote about it.
I cant't really and I don't want to talk about racism and discrimination in the USA, but in europe the growing power of extreme parties is more a consequence of globalism. Many people are actually sick of globalism, the actual politics and especially of the european union. That's why so many extreme parties (communism and facism) try and can catch these people. This has nothing to do because fascism literature is forbidden for sale. To repeat myself, when you are interested in it, you can read this at special libraries. By the way, we also read at school some parts of Mein Kampf.
At Aliasalpha: For educational purpose and art there is no censorship, so you can find symbolics in movies and documentaries.
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DukeNukemForever: At Aliasalpha: For educational purpose and art there is no censorship, so you can find symbolics in movies and documentaries.

Isn't it an issue for games though? Oh wait, games aren't art...
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DukeNukemForever: At Aliasalpha: For educational purpose and art there is no censorship, so you can find symbolics in movies and documentaries.
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Aliasalpha: Isn't it an issue for games though? Oh wait, games aren't art...

Yes, the use of nazi-symbolics is also hard discussed. As example, for some time antifacism-stickers was also forbidden because they use nacism-symbolics, but after some protests they are now allowed.
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Epsilon: Quick australia!, ban the internet! you can read about drugs and murders there.

They're trying to.