Posted May 24, 2011
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GamezRanker
Disagreement Verboten!
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From United States
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Tulivu
Surndr & Die
Registered: Nov 2010
From United States
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nondeplumage
32 Bit World
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brother-eros
darkness beckons
Registered: Jul 2010
From Canada
Posted May 25, 2011
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Eventually our own peoples will reach some equilibrium and you do see some evidence of prominence for respect the Earth coming into the social consciousness - perhaps often not a lot from the conservative political spectrum though even there it is not absent. In fact "being green" has become quite a selling point these days. I would say that Environmentalism as a whole is no longer a fringe movement and is quite mainstream.
I will be the first to argue against the exploitation of one society by another, but a nostalgic imagining of past societies is not accurate, as crazy_dave mentions, the Australian Aboriginies are well known by current fields of research as causing environmental damage on a massive scale when they first arrived, not only the extinction of animal species but of entire ecosystems - which is why so much australian flora survives fires now, they're just the only things that are left, ie, survivor bias, as nondeplumage's post. This is also true on a general level with many, many more civilizations annhilating themselves than surviving. Take into account that the australian aborigines spear people to death when dealing with tribal law, and this still happens today in tribal societies in the Northern Territory, and I don't think they seem as utopian as we would like to imagine.
The point is we can't just dream of a beautiful past to return to, we have to make it happen, work towards a better future.
This said, there are countless problems with societies of today, I agree with that sentiment completely.
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Shakespeare - Macbeth
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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Demut
デムト
Registered: May 2011
From Germany
Posted May 25, 2011
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To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.