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As we all know, The Pirate Bay recently lost a lawsuit against them...
This is a picture on the ensuing protest:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5217821/hundreds-picket-pirate-bay-verdict-in-best+costumed-political-protest-ever
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You can't see my bandana but... Arrr!
I wonder if Maddox is there...
Post edited April 18, 2009 by sheepdragon
All they need now is a boat off the Somali coast hijacking ships filled with computer games :)
edit: spelling errors -_-
Post edited April 18, 2009 by Kyllingen
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Kyllingen: All they need now is a boat off the Somali coast hijacking ships filled with computer games :)
edit: spelling errors -_-

Not to mention getting shot in the head by Navy snipers XD...
I know I will be disagreed with, but everyone knows the whole reason behind The Pirate Bay was to get what they wanted without paying for it. Sure, it's going to have TONS of supporters. I just wonder where so many people suddenly got the idea that it's okay to steal? Back in the day a lot of people wouldn't have showed their faces if they had been stealing things, now days you get slammed for saying it's wrong.
The Internet has really opened things up for "pirates" and I think it's become so common that a lot of people (maybe even the majority) just don't see anything wrong with it. I know that when my buddies 52 year old aunt is on her PC in the kitchen downloading pirated Disney movies for her grand kids that SOMETHING has gone terribly wrong in the world.
What blows my mind is anytime anyone disapproves of TPB they get flamed for it, as I'm sure I will be. I do believe music and movies are very overpriced most of the time, but I don't believe everything should be free. It can't be good for an economy when people are downloading everything either.
...anyways, that may have been off topic but every time I see anything about TPB supporters gone wild it just saddens me.
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Kelthuron: <Snip>

Extremism begets extremism. A large part of what we're seeing is a backlash against the wholesale land grab with regards to our collected culture that's occurred over the past couple of decades. The current state of copyright is nonsensical to more and more people, and thus it's unsurprising when a significant number of people decide to simply start ignoring it. We've been having a bit of a lengthy discussion about the matter in this thread, so if you have further thoughts on the matter you may want to respond there so that we don't end up hijacking this thread.
I'm disappointed by the backlash of the verdict on the Pirate Bay folks, I agree, it seems most people defend them when they clearly helped propagate theft etc. Stealing is simply wrong, and all I ever hear are weak arguments that culminate in some twisted justification of clearly immoral actions. It's a video game, it's a movie, it's music, at the end of the day it's not necessary for you to live so nobody can put up a reasonable argument for stealing it to ever make sense.
I think its just a simple matter that its incredibly easy to steal digital content and because of that ease, it's more prolific, it takes balls to walk into a store and steal something, it doesn't take much to steal something online, just like it doesn't take much to talk trash on the internet, it's easy and so lots of people do it, even though it still isn't right.
For the record, I used to rip stuff off as a younger kid and I also justified my actions with a variety of (in hindsight) pretty pathetic excuses that never actually justified my thievery. I've long since destroyed the things I've stolen and have gone on to actually purchase everything I actually want. No stolen movies, books, games, etc. anymore. I wanna support those who make the things I like. You should to. To spin it any other way is simply wrong.
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Skivir: I'm disappointed by the backlash of the verdict on the Pirate Bay folks, I agree, it seems most people defend them when they clearly helped propagate theft etc.

A big part of the backlash against the verdict is that up to this point it appeared to most people (legal scholars included) that what TPB was doing was not illegal under Swedish law. That coupled with the prosecution making a pretty poor case gives the appearance that this was little more than a show trial with the outcome already predetermined based on pressure being exerted by numerous foreign megacorps. To what extent this perception is true is completely unknown, but merely the existence of this perception naturally upsets quite a few people, far more than would be upset if what TPB was doing was clearly illegal under Swedish law.
I, for one, have never pirated games and don't plan to.
I support the Pirate Bay because their trial wasn't fair. As DarrkPhoenix stated above, what they were doing wasn't illegal under Swedish law.
Plus I think their responses to legal threats are hilarious:
http://thepiratebay.org/legal
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Kelthuron: I know I will be disagreed with, but everyone knows the whole reason behind The Pirate Bay was to get what they wanted without paying for it. Sure, it's going to have TONS of supporters. I just wonder where so many people suddenly got the idea that it's okay to steal? Back in the day a lot of people wouldn't have showed their faces if they had been stealing things, now days you get slammed for saying it's wrong.
The Internet has really opened things up for "pirates" and I think it's become so common that a lot of people (maybe even the majority) just don't see anything wrong with it. I know that when my buddies 52 year old aunt is on her PC in the kitchen downloading pirated Disney movies for her grand kids that SOMETHING has gone terribly wrong in the world.
What blows my mind is anytime anyone disapproves of TPB they get flamed for it, as I'm sure I will be. I do believe music and movies are very overpriced most of the time, but I don't believe everything should be free. It can't be good for an economy when people are downloading everything either.
...anyways, that may have been off topic but every time I see anything about TPB supporters gone wild it just saddens me.

I don't think that the protests are solely related to people's own feelings about piracy, and i even believe that there's lots of people who don't disput the fact that piracy is wrong that would still join the protests.
I don't like to see people being handed jail time for keeping a site with an index of files. It makes me wonder what comes next. We all know how extreme the positions on this issue really are and to what sorts of ridiculous places extreme positions can lead us to.
And it certainly worries me to see some of the things being done or experimented with under the 'War on Piracy' blanket. And i don't mean DRM (or just DRM), i mean laws that some governments are trying to pass. Scarry stuff that wouldn't affect just pirates but everybody with an active connection.
I also have alot of doubts as to the merits of this particular case. If feels alot like Swedish Law was bullied to come up with this decision, and if that turns out to be the case, people should protest. Let's see how the appeal goes.
As for your buddies Aunt, c'mon, strangely as that may sound you got to admit it's funny. When you have millions of ordinary people all across the world, moms, grandmas, aunts, teachers, lawyers, police officers, that are law abiding citizens in every single aspect of their lives, and yet they break this particular law on a daily basis, over and over again, doesn't that make you wonder if this particular law needs some tweaking ?
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Kelthuron: I know I will be disagreed with, but everyone knows the whole reason behind The Pirate Bay was to get what they wanted without paying for it. Sure, it's going to have TONS of supporters. I just wonder where so many people suddenly got the idea that it's okay to steal? Back in the day a lot of people wouldn't have showed their faces if they had been stealing things, now days you get slammed for saying it's wrong.
The Internet has really opened things up for "pirates" and I think it's become so common that a lot of people (maybe even the majority) just don't see anything wrong with it. I know that when my buddies 52 year old aunt is on her PC in the kitchen downloading pirated Disney movies for her grand kids that SOMETHING has gone terribly wrong in the world.
What blows my mind is anytime anyone disapproves of TPB they get flamed for it, as I'm sure I will be. I do believe music and movies are very overpriced most of the time, but I don't believe everything should be free. It can't be good for an economy when people are downloading everything either.
...anyways, that may have been off topic but every time I see anything about TPB supporters gone wild it just saddens me.
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Namur: I don't think that the protests are solely related to people's own feelings about piracy, and i even believe that there's lots of people who don't disput the fact that piracy is wrong that would still join the protests.
I don't like to see people being handed jail time for keeping a site with an index of files. It makes me wonder what comes next. We all know how extreme the positions on this issue really are and to what sorts of ridiculous places extreme positions can lead us to.
And it certainly worries me to see some of the things being done or experimented with under the 'War on Piracy' blanket. And i don't mean DRM (or just DRM), i mean laws that some governments are trying to pass. Scarry stuff that wouldn't affect just pirates but everybody with an active connection.
I also have alot of doubts as to the merits of this particular case. If feels alot like Swedish Law was bullied to come up with this decision, and if that turns out to be the case, people should protest. Let's see how the appeal goes.
As for your buddies Aunt, c'mon, strangely as that may sound you got to admit it's funny. When you have millions of ordinary people all across the world, moms, grandmas, aunts, teachers, lawyers, police officers, that are law abiding citizens in every single aspect of their lives, and yet they break this particular law on a daily basis, over and over again, doesn't that make you wonder if this particular law needs some tweaking ?

Yes, I do agree that it needs some tweaking. Absolutely. I will say this though, I think this site, GOG, is brilliant. While their catalog is still growing, they're off to an excellent start in the simple fact that they TRUST their users. No DRM and no overpricing! I'll be sticking around here.
Now.. I'm going to try and stop hijacking this thread.
This is simply pathetic. And I look forward to the day that someone finally bombs their data center =) Of course, officially, it would be some tragic training exercise gone wrong...
It didn't work as well as I expected.
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