Posted January 12, 2014

ChrisSD
vita brevis
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom

Huinehtar
🙄
Registered: May 2013
From France
Posted January 12, 2014
Last time I used Steam was... wait... around December 2010?
I am not stuck into very oldies, even though I don't necessarily play actual games: sometimes oldies, sometimes games released few years ago. Yes I don't play games right next to their releases: no bad surprises (even though I may buy "Day One" for few games, to support developers or to have nice limited physical releases) but I don't feel the need to change the way I play games. So I don't actually feel the need to play Steam-required games.
Since i have a games backlog (not necessarily here, but they are DRM-free too, including physical releases) growing much faster than I would like (even though I am pleased to see that there are plenty interesting games and I am pleased too to see there are more and more of them), it is all about choice and time.
I am planning to play the whole backlog in the next few years (and I am optimistic ^^), and I know that for many of them, I will play many times (especially strategy/tactics and RPG), so I want to be sure that buying now will not a waste of money because I couldn't be able to play them. Since it's not a matter of trust any firm but a matter of freedom and personal choices, I chose to keep my games in HDD or DVD and to keep in mind that future hardware and software couldn't make my games working.
GOG, for instance, supports many actual systems to make old games working; some other opensource/free software too; both for many cases, and it's great!
But concerning Steam, I do not trust them to make actual games bought now working in the future. And I do not accept cloud gaming/streaming as "true gaming". I may be a bit extreme, but for me, it's just like watching TV. No matter how many choices and consequences those games may have. And I obviously wonder how those games would work in the long term future...
I do not trust companies forcing DRM to hope that they would necessarily remove them or make the games I buy working in the future if it couldn't be possible now. I won't beg them to, even. Those games, I skip them. The digital world is big enough to have some equivalent games DRM'd and DRM-free. When DRM'd games become DRM-free, it's a great thing, and I may give a try. But there are only surprises because I am not really waiting now for these ones (I hope that it will be more of them, though).
Because I am already waiting for three things:
- finishing games already bought
- having the money and the time to regulate enough my backlog to buy and play interesting DRM-free games already released
- games not yet released anywhere
That's why I don't regret from skipping every Steam release.
The whole thing is patience.
I am not stuck into very oldies, even though I don't necessarily play actual games: sometimes oldies, sometimes games released few years ago. Yes I don't play games right next to their releases: no bad surprises (even though I may buy "Day One" for few games, to support developers or to have nice limited physical releases) but I don't feel the need to change the way I play games. So I don't actually feel the need to play Steam-required games.
Since i have a games backlog (not necessarily here, but they are DRM-free too, including physical releases) growing much faster than I would like (even though I am pleased to see that there are plenty interesting games and I am pleased too to see there are more and more of them), it is all about choice and time.
I am planning to play the whole backlog in the next few years (and I am optimistic ^^), and I know that for many of them, I will play many times (especially strategy/tactics and RPG), so I want to be sure that buying now will not a waste of money because I couldn't be able to play them. Since it's not a matter of trust any firm but a matter of freedom and personal choices, I chose to keep my games in HDD or DVD and to keep in mind that future hardware and software couldn't make my games working.
GOG, for instance, supports many actual systems to make old games working; some other opensource/free software too; both for many cases, and it's great!
But concerning Steam, I do not trust them to make actual games bought now working in the future. And I do not accept cloud gaming/streaming as "true gaming". I may be a bit extreme, but for me, it's just like watching TV. No matter how many choices and consequences those games may have. And I obviously wonder how those games would work in the long term future...
I do not trust companies forcing DRM to hope that they would necessarily remove them or make the games I buy working in the future if it couldn't be possible now. I won't beg them to, even. Those games, I skip them. The digital world is big enough to have some equivalent games DRM'd and DRM-free. When DRM'd games become DRM-free, it's a great thing, and I may give a try. But there are only surprises because I am not really waiting now for these ones (I hope that it will be more of them, though).
Because I am already waiting for three things:
- finishing games already bought
- having the money and the time to regulate enough my backlog to buy and play interesting DRM-free games already released
- games not yet released anywhere
That's why I don't regret from skipping every Steam release.
The whole thing is patience.

MoP
Comfortably Gray
Registered: Dec 2009
From Poland
Posted January 12, 2014


Sanjuro
Asha uses all.
Registered: Jun 2013
From Russian Federation
Posted January 12, 2014

As for "how the games removed from Steam ended up being on GOG", well, if publishers want to continue making profits, they have to sell their games somewhere. Digital distribution is cheaper than the physical one, and if you for some reason had disagreements with Valve, who's your next largest seller operating worldwide? No, I didn't mean Amazon. OK, I don't know, maybe they just came to their senses or something.
For some reason my initial reaction was a bit different. And boy. was I right...

golea
Commander Keane
Registered: Mar 2013
From Germany
Posted January 12, 2014
Btw: Is it just me, or is Steam slightly focusing on indiegames lately? Probably just a lack of AAA releases but during the last winter sale I had the feeling they promoted more indie titles than before and the same applies to the daily deals and spotlights.

Pheace
New User
Registered: Jul 2010
From Netherlands

Sanjuro
Asha uses all.
Registered: Jun 2013
From Russian Federation
Posted January 12, 2014

Off-topic: (extract from Steam store)
Wasteland 2 early access
Genre: Adventure, Early Access, Indie, RPG, Strategy
Release Date: 13 Dec 2013
So-o-o-o, is GOG going to have another indie release soon? :-D
Post edited January 12, 2014 by wrathsinger

golea
Commander Keane
Registered: Mar 2013
From Germany
Posted January 12, 2014

As for "how the games removed from Steam ended up being on GOG", well, if publishers want to continue making profits, they have to sell their games somewhere. Digital distribution is cheaper than the physical one, and if you for some reason had disagreements with Valve, who's your next largest seller operating worldwide? No, I didn't mean Amazon. OK, I don't know, maybe they just came to their senses or something.




Off-topic: (extract from Steam store)
Wasteland 2 early access
Genre: Adventure, Early Access, Indie, RPG, Strategy
Release Date: 13 Dec 2013
So-o-o-o, is GOG going to have another indie release soon? :-D
Post edited January 12, 2014 by golea

ET3D
Always a noob
Registered: Oct 2008
From Clipperton Island
Posted January 12, 2014
For some people collecting also matters, sometimes more than the playing. For others being "a true videogame lover" means staying loyal to a small subset of games, playing them again and again and playing user generated content.
If you're the kind to finish a game and move to the next, then not owning the game doesn't matter much. You would probably sell the games if you could, but since they're cheap enough it doesn't really matter.
If on the other hand you buy more games than you play (a common problem) or replaying them often, then you care about owning them for years, and then the fear that you're going to lose them makes it hard to stomach DRM.
If you're the kind to finish a game and move to the next, then not owning the game doesn't matter much. You would probably sell the games if you could, but since they're cheap enough it doesn't really matter.
If on the other hand you buy more games than you play (a common problem) or replaying them often, then you care about owning them for years, and then the fear that you're going to lose them makes it hard to stomach DRM.

_ChaosFox_
Zero fox given.
Registered: Nov 2008
From Germany
Posted January 12, 2014

If you're the kind to finish a game and move to the next, then not owning the game doesn't matter much. You would probably sell the games if you could, but since they're cheap enough it doesn't really matter.
If on the other hand you buy more games than you play (a common problem) or replaying them often, then you care about owning them for years, and then the fear that you're going to lose them makes it hard to stomach DRM.

ET3D
Always a noob
Registered: Oct 2008
From Clipperton Island
Posted January 12, 2014
And that would typically be bundles. GOG restricts platforms (no Linux) and usually includes fewer extras than you can get elsewhere (such as soundtracks, which are common on Humble and Groupees).

pimpmonkey2382.313
You are obsolete. Delete!
Registered: Jan 2011
From United States
Posted January 12, 2014
Eh, I'd say gog gives more extras than anyone.

ChrisSD
vita brevis
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom

AlfaLykos
New User
Registered: Nov 2013
From United States
Posted January 12, 2014
Sorry I was gone most of today so I couldn't answer to all of these. I got the picture from a guy named Lobo on the Starbound forums.

Garrison72
New User
Registered: Apr 2010
From United States
Posted January 12, 2014

