Well, I'm just saying there's no way to know 100%. My current suspicions lay on GoJays and Dominic, but there's no way to be sure unless they out themselves like GameRager.

Technically, four mafia is still a possibility, but it would be cruel of Zchinque as that would mean we have basically been at Lylo for most of the game. I would think it would be unbalanced

I apologize if I have offended you, I meant nothing by it. I was merely looking at the numbers of how voting has been done, and considering such, your methods would make you seem slightly confused. I did not mean you actually are (You could be the mafia mastermind, after all). And if it appears as if I say you voted for Robbeasy, then you must have read it wrongly. I never said such a thing, and did not hint at it. But, again, sorry if I offended you.

On the note of more than one mafia. No, we don't know it, but Zchinque has said there are 25% mafia, and 255 of 12 is 3, so it's only natural to assume only 3 mafia (This was discussed during day 2).

On another note, I have begun to doubt my vote on GoJays slightly. It might be better placed on Eyeball. GoJays did not get so overly defensive as Eyeball, despite he being whom I targeted the most. GoJays seems content that him being lynched will clear him of all doubt, while Eyeball seems more inclined to dismiss my theories as coincidence.

I agree. The generally quoted pro.portion is 25% and 4 mafia in 12 would be a third of the players. If there are 2 mafia left then a wrong lynch now would be game over.

Perhaps a mass claim would be appropriate then?

I could agree to a massclaim if that was the consensus.

I think you're right. How do we go about this?


On a side note about me being defensive, I'd actually say that Dominic's outburst was more defensive and has made me possibly suspect him more than GoJays. I just said that I don't have any way of convincing you, hardly defensive.

Yes but we must remember not to jump to conclusions based on what can be seen as a coincidence. A little support to go with other, more concrete evidence maybe, but not by itself.
It's because everyone's focused on me and eyeball.

I think it's a little difficult trying to convince you I'm innocent, so instead of doing that I'm just going to try to provide whatever information and opinions I have that may help us claim the town back.

As for the 'martyrization' as you put it, well... obviously our best option is to get the last mafia right now and end it, and I know any kind of miscalculation on our part could spell doom for us, but I just keep thinking... what happens if I survive, and still be the main suspect tomorrow (I doubt any suspicions toward me will disappear overnight). That could end very poorly. Of course I don't want to be lynched, but it may make things easier tomorrow. Yes, it's a pretty risky move, but it's something we can always try. I say we try to get some more information and ideas out of everyone though.

Yeah I'm kind of suspecting Dominic a lot more now. Even though I think I said some negative things about eyeball before, my attitude on him have changed these past couple of days. I've also been convinced you and Nazarush have been innocent since... well probably second day on.

It's true that I may still be biased toward Dominic from earlier, but the Titanium vote could have been a calculated move, and then proceeded to try to make me and eyeball (easy targets, but with good reasons, I suppose) seem guilty. Seems to me that he's either very sure the mafia's one of us two, or simply picking on easy targets since he's pretty much ignored the rest of you all day to get to us.

screw it, ill go first.

Im a tourist, vanilla townie

It's not only the post where you said you aren't trying to convince him, it's every reply you have made to me. But I concur, Dominic's outburst was strongly defensive, but I did call him simple-minded :p

On how to do the massclaim, I say we pick a popcorn approach, we find the one under most scrutiny and have them make their roleclaim and then he/she points at the next to perform a roleclaim, and so on.

I thought after last night I was Gogville's golden boy, but looks like noone is above suspicion! And I think Zchinque said "~25%" tho I admit starting with 3 seems the most likely, but 4 cannot be ruled out.
WIth regards to a mass claim, I think we all pretty much know who we all 'claim' to be, so I don't know what will be achieved.
I think perhaps more digging into each other's pasts might be in order, as opposed to basing judgements on what we claim to be or what we say now.

Hmm.... I REALLY hope there's only 3 mafia. 4 would put a whole new spin on this and since I'm already somewhat confused, that would NOT help.

Anyway, if you must know, I'm the Town Vice-Mayor (vanilla), which after Zchinque's unfortunate demise, kind of puts me in charge (not doing a very good job obviously, what with all these lynches and murders).

You make a good point, it does come across as a bit defensive.

As for the massclaiming, it looks ike Nazarush went ahead and started so I might as well continue.

I'm the Town Butcher (Vanilla).

Could that have been your motivation for voting for him?

Surprise, surprise, I'm the Town Teacher (Vanilla)

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