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Dominic998: I have a question for eyeball and GoJays. Presumably you found me suspicious because of my early defence of Titanium, which suggests you also thought he was a mafia. So why did you not vote for him instead?
Nope, I suspected long before yesterday. Actually, if you'll recall I tried to defend Titanium as well, so it'd be weird if I called you out for being suspicious based on that. The thing is, as with eyeball, I didn't really suspect Titanium until yesterday, and therefore was reluctant to pull the trigger, but I most likely would have had you not placed the final vote simply because as I said yesterday, I really didn't want the day to come to a close with a nolynch decision.

Then again, referring to my previous post, you could have gotten the last vote simply as a last ditch effort to appear as the most innocent one of us all. Of course I'm not accusing you of anything (it'd be a little out of line to make a wild accusation like that). I'm just throwing some idea bait out there, since ideas are what we need right now.

Since me and eyeball are the two main suspects right now, I just have to say that we should look at some of the 'presumed innocent' people as well, since eyeball has slowly gotten some of my trust these past few days. I mean, I was ready to lynch him a while back, but I'm definitely not sure of that anymore. So... anything else you guys want to add?
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GoJays2025: Then again, referring to my previous post, you could have gotten the last vote simply as a last ditch effort to appear as the most innocent one of us all. Of course I'm not accusing you of anything (it'd be a little out of line to make a wild accusation like that). I'm just throwing some idea bait out there, since ideas are what we need right now.
Truly? I was convinced we needed evidence or implications?

I decided to make a spreadsheet, like the one nmillar made, to keep track of who voted for whom, and it brought up some interesting points.

Nazarush was part of BOTH mafia lynchings, and quite early in on them too. To me he strikes me as innocent.

Dominic998 was the hammer in Titanium's lynching, but was never part in the lynching of GameRager. Truly, he only ever cast a vote his way, on day 1. The hammering could be to save face, but I think that's stretching it. Such would be a very dooming tactic at this point. No, I do think Dominic is innocent.

Eyeball226, oh dead, sweet eyeball. You have long evaded by judgmental gaze, but no more. There are several points I think point towards you being at high possibility of being mafia. Firstly, you never voted for Titanium, and he never voted for you. Secondly, as I also mentioned after GameRager's lynch, you seemed saddened by his death. Thirdly, you're the only one to ever have cast a vote at Tyler, and did so in fact, on day 1, while he was killed off during night 2. Fourthly, you truly have wanted dominic998 to kick the bucket the last few days, have you not? Voting twice for him on day 3 and once on day 4 before shifting to GameRager. I think you're very suspecious, and I will keep my eye on you.

GoJays2025. What can be said other than strongest candidate... You have cast a vote on GameRager, but never on Titanium. Neither GameRager nor Titanium have cast a vote on you. Your single vote for GameRager was on day 3, when he died. You were the only one to retract your vote. Do take note of that - when Rager was closing to death, you retracted your vote, in possible effort to save him. Yester eve, you did not vote for Titanium despite incredible oppurtunity. He needed a hammer, you did not wish to be it, even when incredibly incriminating evidence appeared. Not even his claim to a Nerd Rage provoked a response from you! Not even when Titanium himself began hinting at him being mafia (Knowing nmillar had an ability, that he had been roleblocked, etc) did you do anything but wash your hands. I think you are the likeliest candidate.

Therefore, vote GoJays2025
I think I can address most of this:

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Damnation: Eyeball226, oh dead, sweet eyeball.
Dead... wait what?

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Damnation: You have long evaded by judgmental gaze, but no more. There are several points I think point towards you being at high possibility of being mafia. Firstly, you never voted for Titanium, and he never voted for you.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a lot of people have never voted for me. I don't think it means anything that he never voted for me.

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Damnation: Secondly, as I also mentioned after GameRager's lynch, you seemed saddened by his death.
As I said before, it was a grimace at watching his massive fail-breakdown.

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Damnation: Thirdly, you're the only one to ever have cast a vote at Tyler, and did so in fact, on day 1, while he was killed off during night 2.
I, like everyone else, was random-voting on the first day.

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Damnation: Fourthly, you truly have wanted dominic998 to kick the bucket the last few days, have you not? Voting twice for him on day 3 and once on day 4 before shifting to GameRager.
Yeah, I was very suspicious of him for ages but I think he proved himself by voting Titanium.
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eyeball226: Dead... wait what?
Urr, typo, meant to say dear :p

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eyeball226: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think a lot of people have never voted for me. I don't think it means anything that he never voted for me.
No? I think it seems quite interesting that you have not voted for him while he has not voted for you as well. Why would mafioso vote for one another? The important thing is not that he has not voted for you, but you BOTH have not voted for each other, and one of you being mafia.

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eyeball226: As I said before, it was a grimace at watching his massive fail-breakdown.
Perhaps... Or perhaps you did not like seeing your fellow mafia die?

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eyeball226: I, like everyone else, was random-voting on the first day.
It was one of the later votes, though, and was made in your first post.

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eyeball226: Yeah, I was very suspicious of him for ages but I think he proved himself by voting Titanium.
But never presented much reason to any, bar him being inactive?
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Damnation: Therefore, vote GoJays2025
Agreed, I'd probably vote for myself too at this point. Again, the mafia still has a great chance of winning, since a mislynch would put it at 2v1, which means it's anybody's game really (which is why Dominic or anyone else who voted could still be mafia - winning isn't that big of a stretch at all). If you are voting for me though, I'd like you to have a strong second opinion ready - I'd take the fall to clear the air a little, but you have to make sure you get ready for the final day. Heck, you should have a strong second opinion ready regardless of who you vote for at this point just because of the possibility of having to go one more day.

As mentioned before, due to my role of being a town official, I didn't feel it to be appropriate for me to kill people randomly, especially not after helping to lynch a townie (yes, I'm still a little haunted by that).

Again, I'd like to hold my vote for now and see what happens.
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Damnation: No? I think it seems quite interesting that you have not voted for him while he has not voted for you as well. Why would mafioso vote for one another? The important thing is not that he has not voted for you, but you BOTH have not voted for each other, and one of you being mafia.
There are a lot of people who haven't voted for me and there are probably a bunch of people I never voted for, I put it down to coincidence.
Perhaps... Or perhaps you did not like seeing your fellow mafia die?
It was one of the later votes, though, and was made in your first post.
I don't have any further reasons to give for these two really, believe what you will.
But never presented much reason to any, bar him being inactive?
You have a point here, I don't have any real explanation for this. I'm bad at analysis and have mostly been playing this on instinct. You'll notice that all through the game I've been reluctant to vote for someone who already has several votes.
After the Robbeasy debacle we've all been pretty cautious.

Anyway, I can see why you'd be suspicious of me. We (GoJays and I) are definintely the most suspicious people so I don't blame you for scrutinising my every action. :P
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eyeball226: There are a lot of people who haven't voted for me and there are probably a bunch of people I never voted for, I put it down to coincidence.
Yes, I'd say that's more like a coincidence as well, since I've also never really gotten many votes either. If you start scrutinzing someone's every action those coincidences will start to look pretty damning, but just know that they could very much just be coincidences.

I'm really at a loss here at who's the last mafia member. If I had to say that in my own personal opinion, I have doubts that you (eyeball) are him. Take this time to look and maybe analyze what the people who voted for Titanium have said. Damnation, you may say it's dumb to vote out their last mafia buddy, but look at it - the entire day so far has been everyone accusing me and eyeball, if the last mobster did vote for Titanium, he's sitting pretty relaxed right now.

Like I said before, I'm alright with taking the hit to clear the air, because it would be a huge disaster if I survive but get lynched tomorrow instead, if we don't nab the mobster today.
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eyeball226: No no, I'd been suspicious of you for ages, if you look back through the thread I've said it many times. I wasn't suspicious of Titanium for most of yesterday (not until he came out with the weird nerd rage thing). I hadn't really connected anything between you and Titanium actually.
Really, because I'm pretty sure you said you found both titanium and me suspicious, before the whole nerd rage thing.
For instance, post 509 you said: "I'm damn suspisious of both of them [referring to Titanium and me].
Post 502: "TBH, I'd be voting for Titanium if he didn't have 3 votes already. I, like GoJays2025 don't want to be the final straw."

And GoJays,
post 491: "I agree that both Titanium/Dominic are a little suspicious right now, especially Dominic...if he is in fact a mafia member, then I'd be a lot more confident in voting Titanium tomorrow"

Now, perhaps I have been a little selective in my quotes (and I'm open to you challenging me with counterquotes) but this does seem to suggest you also suspected Titanium but were reluctant to vote for him, which strikes me as suspicious. And your voting for me at that particular time (when people were most suspicious of me) seems like you were jumping on an opportunistic moment to have me lynched.
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Dominic998: Now, perhaps I have been a little selective in my quotes (and I'm open to you challenging me with counterquotes) but this does seem to suggest you also suspected Titanium but were reluctant to vote for him, which strikes me as suspicious. And your voting for me at that particular time (when people were most suspicious of me) seems like you were jumping on an opportunistic moment to have me lynched.
I'm not going to go through the trouble of finding quotes, but really, finding somebody suspicious but not being sure enough to vote for him is suspicious in itself? Besides, the only reason why I grew a little suspicious of him at that point was because of everyone else jumping on him, not really based on any pure facts (I had been assuming he was innocent before then), which was why I was reluctant to vote for him - I tried not to engage in groupthink. I then voted for you because unlike Titanium, I had suspected you days ago, so I thought you to be more of a likely suspect in my opinion. I also very much doubt that THAT was the time when people were most suspicious of you - how can you say that when just about everyone was voting for Titanium? I believe I was the first to vote for you that day. How was that being opportunistic?

Bah just vote for me already if you want to clear the air. I'd much rather get lynched now and still leave the town a chance to win than have this whole thing repeat tomorrow (if we don't nab the mobster today) and THEN I get lynched.
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Dominic998: ...
Basically the same thing GoJays just said. I was suspicious of both of you but not enough to give the final vote, it was only the nerd rage thing that made things clear. Had the situation been reversed and you had 3 votes and Titanium none I would have voted for him.

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GoJays2025: ...
I'm not so sure that tactic will work. If you turn out to be innocent then we'll be down to 3 by tomorrow morning.
I cant figure out what to make of GoJay's suggestion that we lynch him. On one hand it could be a sincere attempt to give us a better chance tommorow as he says, or its a clever reverse psychology trick to convince us hes innocent. Its a bold move either way.
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eyeball226: There are a lot of people who haven't voted for me and there are probably a bunch of people I never voted for, I put it down to coincidence.
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GoJays2025: Yes, I'd say that's more like a coincidence as well, since I've also never really gotten many votes either. If you start scrutinzing someone's every action those coincidences will start to look pretty damning, but just know that they could very much just be coincidences.

I'm really at a loss here at who's the last mafia member. If I had to say that in my own personal opinion, I have doubts that you (eyeball) are him. Take this time to look and maybe analyze what the people who voted for Titanium have said. Damnation, you may say it's dumb to vote out their last mafia buddy, but look at it - the entire day so far has been everyone accusing me and eyeball, if the last mobster did vote for Titanium, he's sitting pretty relaxed right now.

Like I said before, I'm alright with taking the hit to clear the air, because it would be a huge disaster if I survive but get lynched tomorrow instead, if we don't nab the mobster today.
Coincidence? It could be, of course. But are we really at a stage where we can allow ourselves the leisure of dismissing something as coincidence, when there is equal chance it is not?
No, we are most certainly NOT at such a stage now, and therefore we must pick up everything we can. I am actually very surprised no one is doing the same regarding me (I am not saying I'm mafia, I'm just saying it's the most obvious thing to do - find what you can about everyone alive and base your opinions on that). There are facts hidden in every post made by everyone alive. Be it attitude towards others or voting methods, there is something to be found on all.

On the note of the last mafia willingly killing off one of his own and then sitting back and relaxing in hope we all think everyone who voted for his fellow criminals are sacred. That's a good point, but we're only staring at two people. Nazarush and Dominic. I will write about how they votings for both Titanium and GameRager have been in a second.
I just think it's not too viable a strategy when there is far too much to lose on such a major gamble. My main suspect is still you, GoJays, and the closest follow-up is eyeball. You both have yet to convince me I am wrong, not just address my suspecions and then letting it go.

And on the martyrization. Becoming a martyr is hardly ever a bad thing, now is it? Dying for one's course is honourable and brave. But you just jumped at martyrdom as soon as I posted anything about you, and you are now seeming very eager to become a martyr. It seems a desperate attempt to convince us you aren't mafia, and thus to avoid us lynching you.


Onto Nazarush and Dominic. Nazarush is still silent, and hasn't contributed much today, but I will still point out how I see his voting. He has voted for four people in total. Of those four, he was part in three (Read - ALL) lynchings, and jumped in quite quickly. Suspecious in it self, yes. But if he was mafia, he would know who his fellow criminals were and most likely not move for a lynch, but rather use the "traumatized by the mislynch" as GoJays is so fond of using (As well as others, who are now mostly dead). The only vote he has cast on one who was not lynched was nmillar, and that was from day 1, the day of randomness and we can call it. He voted for Titanium twice on day 4, unvoting when there came confusion in some of you regarding who to vote for, but in the end, he joined me and nmillar in destroying the criminal scum. Other than the lynching of Robbeasy (Followed by a post trying to save face), his record is practically spotfree.

Dominic's turn then. Dominic has only voted for four people as well. Casting five votes in total, with one vote being the hammer, and only that vote being part of a lynch. Namely Titanium's. It's true, Dominic has not voted for FoolalooF/GameRager bar on day 1 (Day of Randomness), and on the same day voting for Titanium (Flagging two mafia members? Dropping a hint on who we should lynch?). He left without any votes on day 2, and day 3 he ended with a vote on GoJays. Day 4 brought about a vote on me, with no other reason that to observe reactions (same reason he cast his vote on GoJays on day 3), and then, his fateful shift from me to Titanium, ending day 4.
His methods seem clouded and random. He has only really had one solidified vote made, the one on Titanium. his other four votes have been random (cast on Day of Randomness) and in order to perform observations.

In all, I don't find much suspecion in Nazarush's voting, but Dominic does indeed seem to be either calculated as mafia, or he might simply be, as GameRager said, simple minded or confused.
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Damnation: You both have yet to convince me I am wrong, not just address my suspecions and then letting it go.
All I can really do is address them, I don't think it's possible for any of us to convince each other.
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Damnation: You both have yet to convince me I am wrong, not just address my suspecions and then letting it go.
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eyeball226: All I can really do is address them, I don't think it's possible for any of us to convince each other.
Then we will reach an eternal stalemate.
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Damnation: In all, I don't find much suspecion in Nazarush's voting, but Dominic does indeed seem to be either calculated as mafia, or he might simply be, as GameRager said, simple minded or confused.
Oh, thanks a lot! The opinion of GameRager, who managed to confuse his role so much he basically lynched himself! I rather think I have been one of the most logical (I've given you statistics for god sake!).

May I remind you that my non-voting on day 2 meant I didn't take part in the disasterous lynch of Robbeasy on day 2, which your summary of me omits.

Secondly, my vote for GoJays on day 3 was 'solid' as I sincerely suspected him at the time (and I think I explained at some point, admittedly dropping it when I came to question my own logic). Anyway, there's nothing to say that voting should always be 'solid'. Sometimes it is useful to use them as probes for information, or other such reasons.

GoJays, I mean it was opportunistic because at that point people like nmillar were pointing the finger at me for being the other mafia (see, for example, post 479).

Btw, do we know for sure there is only one other mafia left?