Ok, does everyone realize that a nolynch is pointless? The mafia get a nightkill every night and without our cop we are guaranteed not to get any new information just by waiting another day. Yes we may lynch a townie by accident but letting the mafia rack up kills with no retaliation insures that we lose.

Titanium makes an excellent point here - even though I'm one of the ones named so will be in trouble if it doesnt' work out....
Vote nmillar

Point taken, unvote nolynch. I'll keep following the discussion.

I agree with Nazarush, that nolynch voting IS pointless, but jumping at half-assed conclusions is not a better alternative.

On the nmillar point of him being mafia. Titanium does bring up a good point, but conspiracy- theories would dictate that he is implicating his fellow mafia, namely to get himself killed and his allies cleared.

On the issue whether there are exactly 3 mafia, we will only learn in the end. Simply put, because the guidelines say 25% does not mean a hard 25% are mafia. Zchinque could easily have selected another number of people just to throw us off-guard.

I'd like to see nmillar replying to the accusation of him being mafia, both by the theory posted by Titanium and the other's following it. For as has been said, information is important and we still don't have much.

Titanium's accusation was because I "know" there are three mafia members, but as Vitek has pointed out it is clearly stated in Zhinque's original mafia thread that 25% of people are mafia. Check for yourself here.

The other vote for me is from Robbeasy (who I suspect to be a mafia member) based on Titanium's speculative comment:

"On a further note, if nmillar IS one of the mafia, it is unlikely that those three that he pointed out are also mafia, since he wouldn't rat out on some of his colleagues, depending on how many there really are. So by "sacrificing" nmillar, we can speculate about the structure of the mafia gang. Three people under the light, if we're wrong, and one mafia out, three clear, if we're right and lynch a mafia member."

So yeah, you could "sacrifice" me and prove me right, but I believe Robbeasy and GoJays2025 are definitely mafia, and the third is either Vitek or Nazarush.

You're absolutely right, what's the point of losing important investors by accusing some townie of being mafia, lynching him and giving the mafia a free kill! So you'd rather potentially have two townies killed in one day, rather than a certain ONE townie getting killed? I've got my business to think of, without people, I would collapse! No people means no money, and no money means no investments. I still stand by my nolynch for today.

Jumping at half-assed conclusions may be all we have - the only way to get concrete evidence is to lynch - whatever the outcome, be they townie or mafia, you can then look back at past comments made by them and others, and get a much better handle on things.
I didnt agree with the nolynch first day, but was sleeping when it was rushed through.

I stand by my nmillar vote for now.

Right, that statement I made in the beginning was grasping at straws anyway. You do seem a bit hysterical about proving the point about the mafia count, but I guess that's normal. I'll stand my ground, for now.

No, just pointing out the facts.

There isn't a time limit on the day right? It only ends with a lynch, so we can keep talking for as long as we need.

Having said that, I think I'm going to have to vote Robbeasy.

For the record, I don't think there's anything suspicious about nmillar's assumption of 3 mafia. That's the assumption I'd have made too so it could just as easily be me being accused.

I have a question for nmillar, why are your suspicions so strong against GoJays? I haven't seen you give any specific reasons.

Mainly for being very quiet so far. Then again, the same could be said about Tyler.

Having read back through the thread, I noticed that GoJays has actually voted for Robbeasy, which leads me to believe that one or the other is mafia, but not both (unless this is another clever mafia ploy, but I could be reading too much into it).

vote Robbeasy

There is no town drunk in this game, which leads me to believe that you're mafia in disguise!

And if Robbeasy isn't mafia, then I believe the people that voted for him up to that point could be the 3 mafia members - excluding me, that would be Vitek, Nazarush and GoJays2025. I didn't include Tyler in this because he's only just voted.

crap, looking back through the posts, I think tyler's vote was the hammer. Really did not want a lynch to go through that fast.

Just in case unvote