SimonG: And they belong here, because they are old games. And for better or worse, at lest MoO 3 ist "culturally significant".

thelovebat: GOG is called GOOD Old Games.

Its pretty universal that both those games aren't really that good, despite the significance of the series they're a part of. As a matter of fact I hope GOG gets Endless Space on board to sell here without DRM, even though I already pre-ordered on Steam for access to the alpha build. Because its a game that looks like Master of Orion 3 actually done right, and its only in the alpha right now and was way more fun than MOO3 was with its spreadsheets galore.

thelovebat: And as was mentioned, before Alan Wake arrived here it didn't have very many votes on the wishlist at all.

gameon: Also consider that a game series such as Pro evolution soccer isn't even allowed to name most of their teams/players properly due to the fact that FIFA owns the licenses. Just names are copyrighted!

Cambrey: Well, a DRM does not necessarily affect your ability to play the game.

Anyway, I wasn't saying that the upload feature was some sort of DRM, but the zero DRM stance that has been their leitmotiv since the very beginning implies that gogs can be played without any dependence on the internet. That simple feature (which you can totally ignore) could shake their stance a little bit. That would be a first that could spread to future games and the way I see it, they will have to reconsider their position regarding the dependency on the internet, and I don't know if they are willing to take that risk.

SirPrimalform: But as I said, it's no different from online multiplayer.

gameon: whenever i played pes, they would usually only have 2 or 3 licensed premier league teams. They hardly have any leagues compared to fifa either.

If they decided to use player names if they had not bought rights, they'd be in trouble, just like these unepic devs using stuff they dont seem to have bought the license to...

gameon: uh....i never said they did buy from EA....

Any license should be bought from whoever owns the ip a the time. So with unepic, they would have had to negotiate with companies like lucas arts and get their permission. if they did,surely it would be in the credits of their game etc.

gameon: thats exactly what i was saying. Each ip is owed by specific companies.

gameon: Thats exactly what parodies have to do.

Also consider that a game series such as Pro evolution soccer isn't even allowed to name most of their teams/players properly due to the fact that FIFA owns the licenses. Just names are copyrighted!

That Unepic game states all these (http://www.unepicgame.com/en/items.html):

"Han Solo's laser gun" (Ranged weapon used by Han Solo in StarWars)
"Hellboys hand of doom" (Hellboy's destructive arm)
"Wolverine arm and claws" (It is Wolverine's arm cut form his elbow that acts as a sword with 3 blades)
"Bat'leth" (Melee weapon from StarTrek used by Klingon Warriors)

In the armor section they have stormtrooper, star trek, austin powers, and kill bill.

Under the "pets" section they have (the starship enterprise Starship of Star Trek, the Original Series), and a mini death star (Imperial Station from Star Wars).

I just cant look past all that, and i seriously doubt any of those companies such as Lucas Arts would allow them to make money using their stuff without licensing.

gameon: Do they want new indie games? hmmm....... maybe they wanted only good old games!

staticblast: In most parodies or spoofs they change the names slightly to make it clear that it it a spoof, like for instance calling the "Han Solo" character "Wan Loner", or something like that...