It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
avatar
yyahoo: snip
it is a very difficult balancing act. The problem is, I think, the difference between making fun of and making fun with. There is some issues around inclusion and exclusion. It goes over the line when it goes towards making fun of, but then for me it is so for any human being, with or without any disabilities. There is a danger in having complete taboo, then you go into realms of exclusion, which can be just as bad...
Post edited October 12, 2012 by amok
avatar
yyahoo: snip
avatar
amok: it is a very difficult balancing act. The problem is, I think, the difference between making fun of and making fun with. There is some issues around inclusion and exclusion. It goes over the line when it goes towards making fun of, but then for me it is so for any human being, with or without any disabilities. There is a danger in having complete taboo, then you go into realms of exclusion, which can be just as bad...
Well, I guess my point re: Altzheimer's is you cannot make fun "with" them. It's the same with making fun of people with mental disabilities. If they're laughing at themselves, it's not because they actually get what they're laughing at.
avatar
yyahoo: Well, I guess my point re: Altzheimer's is you cannot make fun "with" them. It's the same with making fun of people with mental disabilities. If they're laughing at themselves, it's not because they actually get what they're laughing at.
you might be surprised...
avatar
yyahoo: BTW, do you have any cancer jokes you can share with us too?
No, but I have quite a few about car accident victims, and I was one.

If you can't joke about cancer after having one it may only means you don't have enough distance in your life.

Also, if you haven't noticed, the first Alzheimer joke in that thread wasn't targeted on anybody. It was general Alzheimer joke.

It's a difference when you mock a person with Alzheimer and when you just tell a generic joke about it.

Most people I know who've fought cancer were joking about it all the time. It's the distance and coping mechanism many of you should aqcuire.
Post edited October 12, 2012 by keeveek
avatar
yyahoo: Well, I guess my point re: Altzheimer's is you cannot make fun "with" them. It's the same with making fun of people with mental disabilities. If they're laughing at themselves, it's not because they actually get what they're laughing at.
avatar
amok: you might be surprised...
No, I don't think I would be surprised... I don't know about your understanding, but I think a lot of people are under the mistaken impression that having Alzheimer's is like forgetting where you put your keys or forgetting your email password. It's not. People completely forget things like friends, family members. They'll lose 20 years of their lives. Maybe in the very, very early stages, an Alzheimer's patient may understand what is happening, but it doesn't last long. After a while, they'll likely no longer even understand that they even have a disease. They'll not understand why they are where they are. Oh, and average life expectancy after diagnosis is 7 years.
avatar
yyahoo: BTW, do you have any cancer jokes you can share with us too?
avatar
keeveek: No, but I have quite a few about car accident victims, and I was one. If you can't joke about cancer after having one it may only means you don't have enough distance in your life. Also, if you haven't noticed, the first Alzheimer joke in that thread wasn't targeted on anybody. It was general Alzheimer joke. It's a difference when you mock a person with Alzheimer and when you just tell a generic joke about it. Most people I know who've fought cancer were joking about it all the time. It's the distance and coping mechanism many of you should aqcuire.
Ok, how about some AIDS jokes. How about a Down Syndrome joke?

You honestly believe there are no limits to taste in humor?

Regardless, the thing about an Alzheimer's patient is after a short while, they can't joke about themselves anymore.

{sigh} As I said earlier, people like Seth McFarlane have shown me that I am apparently out of the times when it comes to humor. Sorry, I just don't find making fun of others with diseases or disabilities funny. It is most definitely different when they make fun of themselves, but that's not what happens nowadays...
Post edited October 12, 2012 by yyahoo
AIDS jokes are awesome. If I ever had AIDS I wouldn't stop joking about it.

Because you know what? If you're diagnosed with a terminal disease it's the last thing you can do. What else could you do? Just sadden yourself to death?
avatar
keeveek: AIDS jokes are awesome. If I ever had AIDS I wouldn't stop joking about it. Because you know what? If you're diagnosed with a terminal disease it's the last thing you can do. What else could you do? Just sadden yourself to death?
Again, you're talking about making jokes if you *have* the disease or disability. There's a difference. Or at least there *should* be, IMHO.
avatar
yyahoo: Again, you're talking about making jokes if you *have* the disease or disability. There's a difference. Or at least there *should* be, IMHO.
Ok, I get it. But as I've said, there is a difference when you mock somebody, when you make fun of somebody, and when you just say a generic disease joke.

Everybody has a different sense of humour. I just don't accept "You are a terrible person if you joke about it" atitude.
avatar
yyahoo: Again, you're talking about making jokes if you *have* the disease or disability. There's a difference. Or at least there *should* be, IMHO.
avatar
keeveek: Ok, I get it. But as I've said, there is a difference when you mock somebody, when you make fun of somebody, and when you just say a generic disease joke. Everybody has a different sense of humour. I just don't accept "You are a terrible person if you joke about it" atitude.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. Jokes about Alzheimer's propagate the idea that the disease is a funny, silly little bad memory thing. And people who have Alzheimer's do not have the ability to stand up for or represent themselves. Only the people who know and love them can do so.
And blonde jokes propagate the idea blonde women are stupid. Ban them? Joking about blondes is a bad taste?

Yeah, we have to agree to disagree, we have clearly 180 degrees different view on that. Have a nice day :-)
avatar
keeveek: And blonde jokes propagate the idea blonde women are stupid. Ban them? Joking about blondes is a bad taste? Yeah, we have to agree to disagree, we have clearly 180 degrees different view on that. Have a nice day :-)
You're comparing Alzheimer's to hair color, seriously? Blondes can defend themselves. I'm afraid you've missed every point I've made. And no one said anything about banning anything. Yeah, definitely agree to disagree. There's really no need to continue the conversation.

Oh and sorry to the TS for hijacking the thread. I really only intended to show support for the TS's original response.
Post edited October 12, 2012 by yyahoo
avatar
yyahoo: Oh and sorry to the TS for hijacking the thread. I really only intended to show support for the TS's original response.
No problem, i appreciate the supporting response.

To be honest i had no idea that asking for a bookmark option in the game shelf would recieve a joke about Alzeimers. That was the thread hijack.

Still, i wont say anything else, apart from obviously that it'd be nice to have an official spacer/bookmark.
avatar
yyahoo: Oh and sorry to the TS for hijacking the thread. I really only intended to show support for the TS's original response.
avatar
gameon: No problem, i appreciate the supporting response. To be honest i had no idea that asking for a bookmark option in the game shelf would recieve a joke about Alzeimers. That was the thread hijack. Still, i wont say anything else, apart from obviously that it'd be nice to have an official spacer/bookmark.
I agree with you re: bookmark support. If it's not on the wishlist, you should add it.
Google doc/spreadsheet for the win. Keep track of all my games that way.