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Posted June 08, 2010
Bah.
Not a fan of steam, so I wont bother with this.
For Steam to be considered the best option these days is a bit shocking.
I'd love to see the back of such DRM, but I guess it's here to stay.
Posted June 08, 2010
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chautemoc: A handful. It's relatively new. Stardock will be promoting the crap out of it and seems ot think it will get a LOT of people on board in the relatively near future.
but none of the major publishers
Posted June 08, 2010
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chautemoc: A handful. It's relatively new. Stardock will be promoting the crap out of it and seems ot think it will get a LOT of people on board in the relatively near future.

I hope they succeed getting attention from publishers but I really doubt it will happen. It will most likely end up forgotten like every other "innovation" Stardock has tried. Remember GOO? Impulse Anywhere? no? I wonder why...
It would be nice if I'm proven wrong but it is very unlikely. Stardock is the WORST company at getting publishers to do what they want (use GOO, lift regional restrictions, currency conversions, etc)
Post edited June 08, 2010 by OmegaX
Posted June 08, 2010
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OmegaX: Remember GOO? Impulse Anywhere? no? I wonder why...
Ready To Play
Posted June 08, 2010
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OmegaX: Remember GOO? Impulse Anywhere? no? I wonder why...
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lackoo1111: Ready To Play

lol I knew I had forgotten something. Yes, add Ready to Play as another of Stardock's failure at getting the spotlight. Luckily I didn't sign up for the beta; what a waste of time.
Posted June 08, 2010
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lackoo1111: but none of the major publishers

Well, GOO and Reactor are tied I think it how it works, and Capcom is using GOO, as is Paradox. But yeah, there could be a long ways to go.
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OmegaX: I hope they succeed getting attention from publishers but I really doubt it will happen. It will most likely end up forgotten like every other "innovation" Stardock has tried. Remember GOO? Impulse Anywhere? no? I wonder why...
It would be nice if I'm proven wrong but it is very unlikely. Stardock is the WORST company at getting publishers to do what they want (use GOO, lift regional restrictions, currency conversions, etc)

Yeah fair enough. =/ I really hope it works though, I think digital distribution needs this so bad.
Post edited June 08, 2010 by chautemoc
Posted June 08, 2010
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lackoo1111: "but once the game has activated on Steam, you can throw out the game DVD entirely and just download the game over Steam"
releasing retail version is useless
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chautemoc: It's purely for promotional purposes.
But yeah, for me it's pointless to get Steam games at retail.
Everything should use Impulse Reactor forever. The end.

Stores can still mark down games even if they have to be activated on Steam. It's certainly better than the game only being available to purchase on Steam, so there's no competition for pricing.
Posted June 08, 2010
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Andy_Panthro: I'd love to see the back of such DRM, but I guess it's here to stay.

I picture myself with gray hair sitting on my deck with a gin-and-tonic as I enjoy the evening breeze. Occasionally I spare a thought for the days when I played computer games, back before the last computer I was able to find with a DVD drive finally broke.
Posted June 08, 2010
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chautemoc: But yeah, for me it's pointless to get Steam games at retail.

Not when you get a paper manual, easier (re)installation and it's usually cheaper than Steam's regional price fixing.
Posted June 08, 2010
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chautemoc: Well, GOO and Reactor are tied I think it how it works, and Capcom is using GOO, as is Paradox. But yeah, there could be a long ways to go.
Yeah fair enough. =/ I really hope it works though, I think digital distribution needs this so bad.

Capcom used GOO for SF4 and RE5 but Dark Void was released on Impulse with SecuROM so they probably won't be using it anymore.
Paradox using GOO was a step backwards because they previously released games DRM free. Anyway they seem to have ditched GOO too because their newer releases are either DRM free or use a simple serial for online play.
Reactor does sound cool in theory if used only for achievements and match making because it doesn't tie your game to any service but we will have to see if publishers decide to adopt it or not.
Post edited June 08, 2010 by OmegaX
Posted June 08, 2010
Honestly, this is good news. As DRM schemes go, steamworks is among the least intrusive. It's certainly a step up from securom and GFWL. The only thing about Steam that concerns me is how large they've grown. They need competition, and so far Stardock's Impulse isn't providing it. They have a good thing going, there, but they can't seem to convince anyone to use it.
Posted June 08, 2010
one reason i don't trust in Valve.
C. Termination by Valve.
1. In the case of a recurring payment Subscription (e.g., a monthly subscription), in the event that Valve terminates or cancels your Account or a particular Subscription for convenience, Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide a prorated refund of any prepaid Subscription fees paid to Valve.
2. In the case of a one-time purchase of a product license (e.g., purchase of a single game) from Valve, Valve may choose to terminate or cancel your Subscription in its entirety or may terminate or cancel only a portion of the Subscription (e.g., access to the software via Steam) and Valve may, but is not obligated to, provide access (for a limited period of time) to the download of a stand-alone version of the software and content associated with such one-time purchase.
3. In the case of a free Subscription, Valve may choose to terminate or amend the terms of the Subscription as provided in the "Amendments to this Agreement" section above.

And they want us to register our retail games in there ?
Posted June 08, 2010
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chautemoc: But yeah, for me it's pointless to get Steam games at retail.
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Navagon: Not when you get a paper manual, easier (re)installation and it's usually cheaper than Steam's regional price fixing.

Not to mention any special edition goodies like the cards, chips, book and other neatness coming with NV's CE.
Posted June 08, 2010
When did Steam become "The Bad News"?
Maybe some wouldn't consider it "good" news, but bad? It can get a whole lot worse than Steam. And as a PC gamer since BASIC command line games and the onset of 256 colors (as many of us are), we've all seen the piracy that has gone on. I'm willing to accept sacrifices from here on out if it means that PC gaming is alive and well. Steam is something I'm more than happy to work with, and at least it set the precedent of unlimited activations and helped to the eliminate the trend that was headed the other direction.
Posted June 08, 2010
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Navagon: Not when you get a paper manual, easier (re)installation and it's usually cheaper than Steam's regional price fixing.

Paper manuals usually suck, don't mind downloading (DL speed is high), and I'm in Canada so I usually don't get shafted + there's always sales. This is more theoretical than anything; I generally don't buy from Steam.
Post edited June 08, 2010 by chautemoc
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