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Posted May 04, 2009
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Arkose: The Sims 3 has the same protection scheme; however, in order to download any patches (or additional content?) you must register the product with the EA Download Manager and download the updates through it. This effectively turns the product into a service, allowing EA to change the DRM or take away your access to the game (except in its unaltered, out-of-box form) at their discretion. I suspect that Dragon Age will be using the exact same system.

Thanks for the info- one more trick to keep an eye out for. Not so much of an issue if the game is mostly bug-free out of the box (and thus patches aren't a necessity if one must eventually do without), but seeing as both Bioware and EA aren't companies that I'd trust to get things right on the first go such a system would quite possibly be a deal-breaker for me if used in Dragon Age.
Posted May 04, 2009
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Arkose: The Sims 3 has the same protection scheme; however, in order to download any patches (or additional content?) you must register the product with the EA Download Manager and download the updates through it. This effectively turns the product into a service, allowing EA to change the DRM or take away your access to the game (except in its unaltered, out-of-box form) at their discretion. I suspect that Dragon Age will be using the exact same system.
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DarrkPhoenix: Thanks for the info- one more trick to keep an eye out for. Not so much of an issue if the game is mostly bug-free out of the box (and thus patches aren't a necessity if one must eventually do without), but seeing as both Bioware and EA aren't companies that I'd trust to get things right on the first go such a system would quite possibly be a deal-breaker for me if used in Dragon Age.

It is stuff like this that makes me distrust what is said, and as I posted one page 1, their wording seemed a bit odd, but it seems no one is asking about it. I can't ask on their boards as I have deleted my account there.
Posted May 04, 2009
Dragon Age is a day one purchase no matter what DRM it features.
Posted May 04, 2009
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Faithful: Thanks for the info- one more trick to keep an eye out for. Not so much of an issue if the game is mostly bug-free out of the box (and thus patches aren't a necessity if one must eventually do without), but seeing as both Bioware and EA aren't companies that I'd trust to get things right on the first go such a system would quite possibly be a deal-breaker for me if used in Dragon Age.
It is stuff like this that makes me distrust what is said, and as I posted one page 1, their wording seemed a bit odd, but it seems no one is asking about it. I can't ask on their boards as I have deleted my account there.

Don't worry about that, as I imagine a lot of people will be hitting them up with the hard questions. I signed up for an account today in the hopes that I'd get some clarification.
Post edited May 04, 2009 by deoren
Posted May 04, 2009
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Faithful: Thanks for the info- one more trick to keep an eye out for. Not so much of an issue if the game is mostly bug-free out of the box (and thus patches aren't a necessity if one must eventually do without), but seeing as both Bioware and EA aren't companies that I'd trust to get things right on the first go such a system would quite possibly be a deal-breaker for me if used in Dragon Age.
It is stuff like this that makes me distrust what is said, and as I posted one page 1, their wording seemed a bit odd, but it seems no one is asking about it. I can't ask on their boards as I have deleted my account there.
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deoren: I saw your post. I hope you get a straight answer.
Don't worry about that, as I imagine a lot of people will be hitting them up with the hard questions. I signed up for an account today in the hopes that I'd get some clarification.
Posted May 04, 2009
If it truly only has CD check and I can download patches separately and does not install any 3rd party malware (Games for windows live and the like) I might consider buying it. DLC and any other downloadable content requiring registeration/autentisation/instalation of mallware can rot in hell for all I care.
Posted May 04, 2009
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Arkose: The Sims 3 has the same protection scheme; however, in order to download any patches (or additional content?) you must register the product with the EA Download Manager and download the updates through it. This effectively turns the product into a service, allowing EA to change the DRM or take away your access to the game (except in its unaltered, out-of-box form) at their discretion. I suspect that Dragon Age will be using the exact same system.

Bioware just confirmed they'll be issuing standalone patches as usual.
And some more info on the disk check from 'em (page 5):
"I don't think we are hitting the specifics yet, but I can tell you two things. Starforce is not a basic disk check. Tages is not a basic disk check"
Post edited May 04, 2009 by chautemoc
Posted May 04, 2009
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sheepdragon: Holy dicking fuck!

Awesome. Just awesome.
Posted May 04, 2009
Nice title OP. I came in here thinking Dragon Age would be another game I wouldn't buy. :P
Posted May 04, 2009
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chautemoc: Bioware just confirmed they'll be issuing standalone patches as usual.

So far it seems they've ruled out about anything that would be a real problem. I would like them to go a step further like Ubisoft and not require the disc to be in the drive at all.
One would hope that they'll eventually release an official NOCD patch which will disable that.
Posted May 04, 2009
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chautemoc: Bioware just confirmed they'll be issuing standalone patches as usual.
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deoren: So far it seems they've ruled out about anything that would be a real problem. I would like them to go a step further like Ubisoft and not require the disc to be in the drive at all.
One would hope that they'll eventually release an official NOCD patch which will disable that.

That's ok, the whole reason I'm ok with a simple disk check is because WE can all GET our own NOCD patch ourselves :)
Seriously, who DOESN'T crack their own games? Disk swapping got old years ago.
Posted May 04, 2009
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Cliftor: That's ok, the whole reason I'm ok with a simple disk check is because WE can all GET our own NOCD patch ourselves :)
Seriously, who DOESN'T crack their own games? Disk swapping got old years ago.

I'm with you on that, but at some point obtaining the cracked exes will become much harder (legal issues perhaps) than it is now.
Posted May 04, 2009
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Cliftor: That's ok, the whole reason I'm ok with a simple disk check is because WE can all GET our own NOCD patch ourselves :)
Seriously, who DOESN'T crack their own games? Disk swapping got old years ago.
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deoren: I'm with you on that, but at some point obtaining the cracked exes will become much harder (legal issues perhaps) than it is now.

I doubt it. Publishers don't seem to pay attention to them. If anything was going to happen, I'd think we would've heard at least their concerns by now. Worst case scenario they shift primarily to torrent sites. :P
Post edited May 04, 2009 by chautemoc
Posted May 04, 2009
Well thats bloody good news, I wonder how hard Bioware had to fight for that.
As for the registration thing, for NWN1 & 2 (I think it was in 1 as well) you had to log in to the multiplayer component using your bioware forum login, its not unreasonable to suspect that the same will apply to DA:O and it could be easily expanded do cover access to any DLC, ideally in a simple "download this exe and run it to install the addon" kind of way
Posted May 05, 2009
Unimpressed.
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