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I couldn't care one way or the other since my laptop sure as hell isn't going to run it but it is fascinating to see EA change so much in these past few years. Green lighting original IPs. Talking a...softer stance towards DRM. Its like I don't recognise them from the people who were going to sell me "uber awesim" Bad Company weapons as "DLC".
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Almak: I couldn't care one way or the other since my laptop sure as hell isn't going to run it but it is fascinating to see EA change so much in these past few years. Green lighting original IPs. Talking a...softer stance towards DRM. Its like I don't recognise them from the people who were going to sell me "uber awesim" Bad Company weapons as "DLC".

They apparently realised there is a great potential for making money if you can hype up/market your games as having less DRM than the other guys' (as well as marketing towards the people less knowledgable about DRM).
Post edited May 04, 2009 by Miaghstir
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acare84: Only CD Check like older games or Oblivion.
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cogadh: The CD check built into many older games was actually SecuROM or other copy protection schemes like SafeDisk, Starforce, Tages, etc. We know they aren't using SecuROM's disk check system, but what system are they using, if any?

They are saying only CD-Check and not mentioning about Tages, Safedisc, Starforce or other DRM's. So it will use only CD-Check like older games I think.
Virtually all CD checks, even from "older" games WERE Safedisc and such. These companies sell all sorts of copy protection kits, and for the longest time it was just a CD check included in the maingame.exe.
It's only when the protection measures went from plain copy protection to outright DRM that the actual names of these kits started getting attached to the controversy.
I'm fine with a SecuROM disk check. As long as I can crack it with no hassle, the DRM is fine. I know that sounds ironic, but that's me. I've long since lost my Thief II CDs, but I made my own ISOs and have the modified .exes, so I'm set. I have my game forever.
This is very good news. I was excited for Dragon Age: Origins when I first heard about it.. Especially when the early reports were it about being inspired by the song of ice and fire books.. But when EA took Bioware over (or whatever it was.. merged.. dunno) I feared the worst... Well, I can safely say I'm excited again and this will be getting my hard earned cash.
Post edited May 04, 2009 by nimagraven
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acare84: Only CD Check like older games or Oblivion.

Oblivion GOTY uses SecuROM. :|
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DarrkPhoenix: This makes me a bit worried. I can't help but wonder what kind of "online authentication... but not online authentication" doublespeak they might be thinking up. The fact that the game's release is still quite a ways off and already they're talking about nickle-and-diming customers with DLC also isn't particularly promising.

The Sims 3 has the same protection scheme; however, in order to download any patches (or additional content?) you must register the product with the EA Download Manager and download the updates through it. This effectively turns the product into a service, allowing EA to change the DRM or take away your access to the game (except in its unaltered, out-of-box form) at their discretion. I suspect that Dragon Age will be using the exact same system.
I'm fine if the only DRM is "check disc". I have never had any problems with that, and if the game is good, I'll definitely purchase it.
You guys are retardedly pessimistic. :P
Not that I blame you exactly, but anyway...in that post they also announce a toolset, so...lots of free mods and such. I'm not complaining at all. I suspect the DLC will be worthy of purchase. If its not, well, at least its not DRM.
Post edited May 04, 2009 by chautemoc
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Cliftor: Virtually all CD checks, even from "older" games WERE Safedisc and such. These companies sell all sorts of copy protection kits, and for the longest time it was just a CD check included in the maingame.exe.

Yeah, it's amazing that people don't know this.
Pro.
I think Dragon Age is one of the few games I'm looking forward to. And since EA is getting more consumer-friendly...
Games on GOG, perchance?
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Cliftor: Virtually all CD checks, even from "older" games WERE Safedisc and such. These companies sell all sorts of copy protection kits, and for the longest time it was just a CD check included in the maingame.exe.

It's not that they sell various different types of copy protection, it's that the code has been upgraded and gotten new versions like any program, now most of them contain a host of different optional parts that the developer/distributor can chose between as they see fit, earlier versions of them maybe just had the serial key and/or cd check, so that's what was used. Nowadays most has optional parts of online checking, disc check, serial key, number-of-installations, and maybe other things as well, and they do it through different means; installed drivers (hidden or visible), code directly in game exe or in external dll files, extra programs that need to be installed (ie. Steam)... you name it.
Just like you can chose to install only the parts of an application that you want (for those that has an option of custom installation), developers can chose which parts of securom, tages, et al. they want to use.
Like any software developer the copy protection developing companies need to create new versions of their software to be compatible with modern systems and add features so that their customers want to keep buying from them instead of their competitor. Why do you think Microsoft has been releasing new versions of Windows and Word every few years? Why have they been modifying them and adding features? Why did they not continue the GUI-on-top-of-DOS Windows after Windows Me but instead only continued with the NT line as they released XP, and why did Apple scrap their Mac OS and decide to go with a Unix base after OS 9? Same reasoning applies to copy protection.
Bah I've ranted far too long, and this post is largely totally unnecessary, but I don't want to having typed all this just to click "cancel", so here you go.
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acare84: Only CD Check like older games or Oblivion.
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deoren: Oblivion GOTY uses SecuROM. :|

My Vanilla version has only CD-Check. No Securom on it, I can make a backup with Nero without having a problem too.
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michaelleung: I think Dragon Age is one of the few games I'm looking forward to. And since EA is getting more consumer-friendly...
Games on GOG, perchance?

Lawsuits against them, perchance! :o)