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Time4Tea: (...)
I've already explained about the principle of free speech and I'm not going to do it again.
Yes, freedom of expression allows you to express your ideas in public. But it is not a principle without legal or constitutional limits. Freedom of expression is one thing, unfair competition by one company against its immediate competitor is another. That is not ethical or moral. People have lost the notion of freedom and the limits that come with that freedom. I don't know, what's the point of boycotting GOG when you think the competition is better? In that case, isn't it better to go with the competition than to stay with GOG as a customer? In the end, no company forces its customer to be loyal to it for life. The life of a company is as ephemeral and short as that of any person. I don't understand people's mania for complicating things. On the contrary, I commend and look very favourably on GOG allowing this thread. For how sad life would be if others thought the same way as me.
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Whynots1: Zoom is just circling the drain. Their CEO is a paranoid child who has trouble accepting disappointment. He sends their mods here to promote their crap because Zoom has no other marketing.
And you have 0 games (count them: ZERO GAMES!) in your account*, which leaves me wit h but three conclusions:

a) You're poor, and therefore your opinion is worthless.

b) You're the alt of one of the regulars who is too much of a coward to talk shit from his actual account, which renders your opinion worthless.

c) (and this is a bit conspiratoraial) You're actually a Zoom employee running a PSYOP by masquerading as a gog user, making gog users look bad and drawing sympathies towards Zoom. This sounds like exactly like the kind of thing a Zoom employee would do. Treachery is their forte. This woul drender your opinion a sterling 10/10 effort in guerilla marketing.

High 5, everyone!

*Edit: Like, bro, at least add some free games! Add some demos, for crying out loud! At least PRETEND you're an actual customer!
Post edited September 03, 2022 by fronzelneekburm
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Whynots1: Zoom is just circling the drain. Their CEO is a paranoid child who has trouble accepting disappointment. He sends their mods here to promote their crap because Zoom has no other marketing.
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fronzelneekburm: And you have 0 games (count them: ZERO GAMES!) in your account*, which leaves me wit h but three conclusions:

a) You're poor, and therefore your opinion is worthless.

b) You're the alt of one of the regulars who is too much of a coward to talk shit from his actual account, which renders your opinion worthless.

c) (and this is a bit conspiratoraial) You're actually a Zoom employee running a PSYOP by masquerading as a gog user, making gog users look bad and drawing sympathies towards Zoom. This sounds like exactly like the kind of thing a Zoom employee would do. Treachery is their forte. This woul drender your opinion a sterling 10/10 effort in guerilla marketing.

High 5, everyone!

*Edit: Like, bro, at least add some free games! Add some demos, for crying out loud! At least PRETEND you're an actual customer!
I answered this yesterday. I'm normally a Steam user. I got one Zoom game and was disappointed. One of their mods posted this forum link. They were complaining about you guys on their discord. I came here and ended up agreeing with a lot of what was said. Having been on their discord I have a unique POV.

I'll buy something when I'm ready. I don't have to buy something to prove my point.
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fronzelneekburm: c) (and this is a bit conspiratoraial) You're actually a Zoom employee running a PSYOP by masquerading as a gog user, making gog users look bad and drawing sympathies towards Zoom. This sounds like exactly like the kind of thing a Zoom employee would do. Treachery is their forte. This woul drender your opinion a sterling 10/10 effort in guerilla marketing.
Damn it, Whynots ... we told you to be more careful! :-P
Maybe this thread should be removed/closed. Doesn't seems to actually serve any real purpose, other than self-promotion, and allowing the shill's to talk down the hosting company and its users...
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Time4Tea: (...)
I've already explained about the principle of free speech and I'm not going to do it again.
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UCrest: Yes, freedom of expression allows you to express your ideas in public. But it is not a principle without legal or constitutional limits ...
You've taken my comments about freedom of speech out of context. Those comments were made in response to the suggestion that people should not be allowed to talk about other people, without their express permission. Being able to talk about other people freely is completely consistent with the principle of free speech.

I accept the point that what GOG allows on their forums is up to GOG and I made the point previously that in talking about Zoom Platform in a positive light and defending them, I am not breaking the GOG CoC. If GOG wants to change their CoC and ban discussion of other stores on the forum, they have the right to do that. But, to be consistent, they would also have to ban discussion of Steam, Epic as well, right?
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Whynots1: Zoom is just circling the drain. Their CEO is a paranoid child who has trouble accepting disappointment. He sends their mods here to promote their crap because Zoom has no other marketing.
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fronzelneekburm: And you have 0 games (count them: ZERO GAMES!) in your account*, which leaves me wit h but three conclusions:

a) You're poor, and therefore your opinion is worthless.

b) You're the alt of one of the regulars who is too much of a coward to talk shit from his actual account, which renders your opinion worthless.

c) (and this is a bit conspiratoraial) You're actually a Zoom employee running a PSYOP by masquerading as a gog user, making gog users look bad and drawing sympathies towards Zoom. This sounds like exactly like the kind of thing a Zoom employee would do. Treachery is their forte. This woul drender your opinion a sterling 10/10 effort in guerilla marketing.

High 5, everyone!

*Edit: Like, bro, at least add some free games! Add some demos, for crying out loud! At least PRETEND you're an actual customer!
It's an alt most likely and they are making believe it isn't.
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fronzelneekburm: And you have 0 games (count them: ZERO GAMES!) in your account*, which leaves me wit h but three conclusions:

a) You're poor, and therefore your opinion is worthless.

b) You're the alt of one of the regulars who is too much of a coward to talk shit from his actual account, which renders your opinion worthless.

c) (and this is a bit conspiratoraial) You're actually a Zoom employee running a PSYOP by masquerading as a gog user, making gog users look bad and drawing sympathies towards Zoom. This sounds like exactly like the kind of thing a Zoom employee would do. Treachery is their forte. This woul drender your opinion a sterling 10/10 effort in guerilla marketing.

High 5, everyone!

*Edit: Like, bro, at least add some free games! Add some demos, for crying out loud! At least PRETEND you're an actual customer!
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Truth007: It's an alt most likely and they are making believe it isn't.
Think I'll stick to Steam.
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Truth007: It's an alt most likely and they are making believe it isn't.
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Whynots1: Think I'll stick to Steam.
The reason people are questioning if your troll is because it happen several times. Someone would make account to start drama or talk smack to other users. Nothing against you.
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Trooper1270: Maybe this thread should be removed/closed. Doesn't seems to actually serve any real purpose, other than self-promotion, and allowing the shill's to talk down the hosting company and its users...
It will do nothing but give them ammo. I already seen one ZOOM employ saying GOG only seems to close thread if its about ZOOM.
Post edited September 03, 2022 by Syphon72
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Trooper1270: Maybe this thread should be removed/closed. Doesn't seems to actually serve any real purpose, other than self-promotion, and allowing the shill's to talk down the hosting company and its users...
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Syphon72: It will do nothing but give them ammo. I already seen one ZOOM employ saying GOG only seems to close thread if its about ZOOM.
And... who cares really? "Giving ammo" like what they say would matter for anything. Let them talk on discord or wherever but this flame war here seems redundant.
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Syphon72: It will do nothing but give them ammo. I already seen one ZOOM employ saying GOG only seems to close thread if its about ZOOM.
Maybe, maybe not. But they don't even have a forum on their web site, so the possibility of a thread dedicated to GoG related discussion is not even possible on their site, so why should it be ok for them, and then have it be abused ?.

Other gaming store fronts (that are not doing business with GoG) don't have dedicated topics here allowing for free promotion and advertising (and sticking the odd boot in now and again) by their customers and employees, do they ?. So why should they be any different ?.


Edit: Added an 's' to discusion, because I can't spill...
Post edited September 03, 2022 by Trooper1270
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Syphon72: It will do nothing but give them ammo. I already seen one ZOOM employ saying GOG only seems to close thread if its about ZOOM.
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Trooper1270: Maybe, maybe not. But they don't even have a forum on their web site, so the possibility of a thread dedicated to GoG related discussion is not even possible on their site, so why should it be ok for them, and then have it be abused ?.

Other gaming store fronts (that are not doing business with GoG) don't have dedicated topics here allowing for free promotion and advertising (and sticking the odd boot in now and again) by their customers and employees, do they ?. So why should they be any different ?.

Edit: Added an 's' to discusion, because I can't spill...
True. ssling and you are making a good point.
Post edited September 03, 2022 by Syphon72
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fronzelneekburm: a) You're poor, and therefore your opinion is worthless.
Butting in here but... excuse me???
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Trooper1270: Maybe this thread should be removed/closed.
Hoping it won't be, personally, but this current flame war is indeed providing every reason for that to happen... Though, at the same time, maybe not, depending on how GOG staff considers that it reflects on ZP. Personally I find it reflecting very badly on them. And that saddens me, because they do stick closer to what GOG used to be and I want them to do well and be(come) a noteworthy alternative. But there are... issues.
Post edited September 03, 2022 by Cavalary
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Trooper1270: Maybe this thread should be removed/closed. Doesn't seems to actually serve any real purpose, other than self-promotion, and allowing the shill's to talk down the hosting company and its users...
Should have happened a while back.
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fronzelneekburm: a) You're poor, and therefore your opinion is worthless.
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Cavalary: Butting in here but... excuse me???
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Trooper1270: Maybe this thread should be removed/closed.
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Cavalary: Hoping it won't be, personally, but this current flame war is indeed providing every reason for that to happen... Though, at the same time, maybe not, depending on how GOG staff considers that it reflects on ZP. Personally I find it reflecting very badly on them. And that saddens me, because they do stick closer to what GOG used to be and I want them to do well and be(come) a noteworthy alternative. But there are... issues.
I would love an alternative DRM free store and for it to keep GOG more on its toes. GOG is not perfect, for sure. But ZOOM is handling this wrong by trying to make people hate GOG. I'm repeating myself, but they're blaming GOG for selling games they had for years before at a limited discount. Also, blaming GOG for what EA is doing to them. I lost a lot of respect for them and will think twice before buying from ZOOM. It just sucks the two DRM free stores acts like this.
Post edited September 03, 2022 by Syphon72