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Posted January 06, 2021
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Linko64: Suspicious of what exactly?
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Timboli: It's more a feeling than anything concrete or I would have mentioned it.

Like I said, it seems odd or strange that their website isn't better than it is, when they should have every reason to make it so. Unanswered questions like that make me suspicious ... but it might be unfounded.

I've joined and gotten the 8 free games and bought 4 more, and have been considering others.
So I am not worried about malware or anything like that ... and I always download immediately so no concerns there either.

And anything there might be a reason to be suspicious about probably doesn't impact me personally anyway.
But it could be something to do with the industry and maybe an impact on a DRM-Free store like GOG.
I don't really want to say more, because it would be heading into conspiracy territory, so all I am doing, is saying I have a feeling of suspicion ... I sincerely hope it is misplaced.

The more DRM-Free stores the better, and as Time4Tea say, it may help keep GOG on the straight and narrow.

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@GamezRanker - Please don't open discussions with me, especially about which you have absolutely no clue or understanding, or I will put you back on hide again. You have burnt your bridges with me. Ignore me as I have been you ... until you quoted me.
If you're worried about outdated website design, I would point you to a fair amount of aspects that GOG are behind in, you can't even filter by release date or rough date ;)

Aside from that, your worries seem more misplaced due to being a fan of GOG than anything concrete. They're hardly going to be running an illegal operation when everything is out there in the public mate.
Posted January 06, 2021
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@GamezRanker - Please don't open discussions with me, especially about which you have absolutely no clue or understanding, or I will put you back on hide again.
I made ONE reply to ya in the past several months....I think that was hardly worth this sort of response.

Btw I was actually honestly curious how you could seemingly be not okay with GOG for the GOG DLer removal for a long time, yet now you seem to be more okay with gog.
(I would also think that you'd be even more upset with GOG given the current issues and decisions coming from them)

To be fair, though, I will generic quote you in the event I feel like making a reply to something you've said....so you don't get notified.
(I also likely won't be replying much to you anymore after this post)

Lastly: if you want to put me on hide(I assume you mean using an ignore program) then by all means.
Post edited January 06, 2021 by GamezRanker
Posted January 06, 2021
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Linko64: They're hardly going to be running an illegal operation when everything is out there in the public mate.
This 100%

If zoom was doing anything not above board, they'd likely have been sued and/or possibly shut down by now.
Posted January 09, 2021
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Linko64: Aside from that, your worries seem more misplaced due to being a fan of GOG than anything concrete. They're hardly going to be running an illegal operation when everything is out there in the public mate.
A false assumption, and where did I say anything about an illegal operation mate?

I thought I made it perfectly clear in my last reply, that it was nothing concrete and mostly just a feeling of disquiet, based on an element of logical reasoning ... why wasn't their website better to encourage more customers.

You really are making a mountain out of a molehill.

P.S. If I was into conspiracies, I could propose the idea they are secretly funded by Steam to eat away at GOG's profits.
Post edited January 09, 2021 by Timboli
Posted January 09, 2021
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malikhis: https://www.zoom-platform.com/product/duke-nukem-2

As if you need any further evidence. Duke Nukem cannot be distributed due to the whole fiasco with ownership.
Actually, that is not true at all. Gearbox own it and when they took ownership they removed it from GOG.
From what I have read, two people at the ZOOM Platform have a special case scenario that allows them to sell it, but only that which had been available at GOG ... and they are currently the only ones allowed to sell it.

You cam also find mention of the ZOOM Platform on the 3D Realms Wikipedia page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_Realms

I did a bit of research on them before I made my first purchase, and I have made four now.
I would not have done that if they were in the least suspicious of being illegal I can assure you.
Posted January 09, 2021
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malikhis: You realize there are thousands of "paid piracy" sites out there, right? Where a site pretends to be legit but really only distributes pirated material. There are also sites that don't even pretend to be legit and distribute download links from their own servers (you often have to pay for higher speeds).

Yeah, no registrant information. DEFINITELY a piracy website.
It's more likely(imo) that you distrust the site and are doing mental gymnastics to uphold your view of the site.

If you distrust the site then please go ahead and contact the IP holders, and ask them if the games are legit....or contact others that can clarify the situation....before saying or inferring that you "know" that zoom isn't a legit site.
Post edited January 09, 2021 by GamezRanker
Posted January 09, 2021
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Timboli: why wasn't their website better to encourage more customers.
This is one of the reasons that stop me to try this. The website is terrible and has been for years. No screenshots, and they still use trailers from random people on Youtube (which sometimes leads to broken videos on the game page).
Posted January 09, 2021
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malikhis: Did you miss the part where I contacted IP owners over the thousands of piracy sites that exist? The part where GoG tells me "sorry, can't do anything" over websites that distribute their installers? The part where even the host won't do anything. The now defunct "good old downloads" wasn't brought down by legal action, the owner took it down because of getting DOXXED by his competitors.

It is not hard to find piracy wrebsites, and the IP holders often cannot do anything because there is no such thing as international IP law.
None of that proves zoom platform is doing anything illegal.

Btw, iirc zoom platform is owned by people in the US. If that is true, they'd liekly have been hit by C&D letters and suits by now if anything wasn't on the up and up....as no doubt many have contacted the IP holders by now.
Posted January 09, 2021
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Some of the mind loops being created here are crazy. You seem to think everything that's not GOG is some sort of illegal operation. An outdated website does not mean foul play. It's not like the website is hidden away or the listed games aren't public. The conversation here went from a discussion to some Infowars level mind-bending lol

Their discord is public, you can always engage with them on there, might even halt some fears and theories!
Post edited January 09, 2021 by Linko64
Posted January 09, 2021
Looks cool, but the sad reality is that I don't have the time to manage more than one place to access my games or to follow up on for releases of new games for that matter (flirted with Humble Bundle and DotEmu in the past... DotEmu no longer seem to have a game store and I haven't gone to Humble Bundle in quite some time, I don't even know if the handful of games I got on that platform are still there).

Still, very nice to have choices and alternatives. Competition is good even within a niche market.
Post edited January 09, 2021 by Magnitus
Posted January 09, 2021
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Linko64: Some of the mind loops being created here are crazy. You seem to think everything that's not GOG is some sort of illegal operation. An outdated website does not mean foul play. It's not like the website is hidden away or the listed games aren't public. The conversation here went from a discussion to some Infowars level mind-bending lol
It's nothing new, actually....every now and then someone new will usually come in to espouse something along the lines of "I don't trust this site for x or y reasons, which I won't bother to verify the validity of".
Post edited January 09, 2021 by GamezRanker
Posted January 10, 2021
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Timboli: I thought I made it perfectly clear in my last reply, that it was nothing concrete and mostly just a feeling of disquiet, based on an element of logical reasoning ... why wasn't their website better to encourage more customers.
I don't think it seems strange at all that ZP's website is fairly simplistic, given they are a small store that is struggling to gain traction and get off the ground. They don't have the resources to invest a lot of time/effort in their website.

To me, it seems stranger that GOG's website is so bad, given how much bigger a business they are and the fact they are backed by a relatively large public corporation.

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malikhis: You realize there are thousands of "paid piracy" sites out there, right? Where a site pretends to be legit but really only distributes pirated material. There are also sites that don't even pretend to be legit and distribute download links from their own servers (you often have to pay for higher speeds).
Sorry, but I don't buy it. If Zoom Platform was a 'paid piracy' site, I would expect them to have a far larger selection of games available (and they would probably be making enough money to invest in a better website).
Post edited January 10, 2021 by Time4Tea
Posted January 10, 2021
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Time4Tea: To me, it seems stranger that GOG's website is so bad, given how much bigger a business they are and the fact they are backed by a relatively large public corporation.
No kidding!
Posted January 10, 2021
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Time4Tea: To me, it seems stranger that GOG's website is so bad, given how much bigger a business they are and the fact they are backed by a relatively large public corporation.
I'm not a UX expert (I'm the guy who takes the output from UX people and can do everything else), but what's wrong with GOG's website?

Beyond the very occasional glitch (ex: Last one I remember is not being able to logout on Firefox two weeks ago), it seems very user-friendly... definitely a professional job with a dedicated frontend and UX team behind it.
Post edited January 10, 2021 by Magnitus
Posted January 10, 2021
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Magnitus: I'm not a UX expert (I'm the guy who takes the output from UX people and can do everything else), but what's wrong with GOG's website?
GOG's website is loaded with lots of useless and CPU-heavy javascript. The website is slow and loads the CPU way too much for a simple storefront that should just show you names and screenshots for the games the store's selling. The previous version, before the disastrous 10th anniversary update, was not really good, but still far better than the current one in that aspect.

The new page layout is also a disaster. For example, the most important parts of the game page, ie, the system requirements and the reviews, have deferred loading and they load slooowly.

The latest updates also show that GOG just don't care about its users. The fact that you can't pay for your order with a credit card if you disabled scripts from "pay.google.com" is an insult.
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