Brasas: Ok then... I admit TinyE's tentacles are somehow charming... so maybe him?

There. I said it.

Emob78: snip

Brasas: I don't want this to be too personal mate.

In terms of defining tolerance, consider this as a simpler answer than the one I gave you. You asked "So you still define tolerance as everyone must talk to each other even on things they don't agree on. Am I right?"

I told you no. Because of the implication about imposition carried by the "must" you used. I assume you chose the words carefully and wanted the must to be there. But let's take the must away.

Tolerance is everyone talking to each other even on the things they don't agree on.

Does that really seem not to fit? To me that fits. It's not all of tolerance, but it is part of it. Ignoring someone can be tolerance, especially as an alternative to punching them - but ignoring does not define tolerance.

What do you think?

PS: Some years ago a girl called Jane was in love with me. I did not reciprocate because I liked someone else called Judy. I did nothing to Jane. I did nothing with Jane. I ignored Jane. Jane was hurt by that.

Inaction can cause harm. Causing harm may not imply responsibility. I am not responsible for Jane hurting. But I caused it. And yet, I did nothing.

See what I mean? It's not illogical. It's logical. Also tragic, but that's a separate point.

Gnostic: If I jump from a 20 story building, can I say the ground kill me? No I kill myself.
Can I say you who is standing near me kill me by your inaction to stop me? No I kill myself.
Can I say the workers that build the building kill me? No I kill myself.

Gnostic: So you agree that while ignoring is not tolerance, it can be a subset of tolerance?

Your analogy regarding Jane has a flaw. It is not your inaction that cause Jane harm. It is Jane herself that cause her harm.
If I jump from a 20 story building, can I say the ground kill me? No I kill myself.
Can I say you who is standing near me kill me by your inaction to stop me? No I kill myself.
Can I say the workers that build the building kill me? No I kill myself.

But I get it, when something goes wrong, humans like to blame on something other then themselves.

sunshinecorp: Well, actually what kills you is the inelastic collision of a rigid body (ground) and a soft body (yourself). You see, your soft tissue and blood vessels are damaged by the sudden stop and the force applied by the ground. Same thing happens to your bones and organs. All of this causes internal bleeding and death. The main cause of this damage is the force of deceleration. You see, your velocity will reach zero rather quickly upon contact with the ground and all your kinetic energy will be transformed. To death.

Tarm: Brasas.
You got political ambitions or are aiming for a sociology/culture career?

Gnostic: But I want to blame Brasas for not stopping me jumping. How do I do that?

sunshinecorp: I also wonder that. :)

Tarm: Yes the questions in the original post is a cut and paste job from those fields. Made me not want to read the thread and instead ask what I did.

sunshinecorp: I also did that. :)
Let me find it... there:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/what_kind_of_community_do_we_want/post149

Tarm: So maybe I should have read the thread anyway? ;)

sunshinecorp: Is it really necessary, though? Don't all politicians sound the same?

Brasas: Would you vote for me?

Klumpen0815: I would.