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DBDigital: There are some tools around that help with downloading (not as good as GOG downloader but get the job done). I'm using XDM which plugs into a browser and gives starting/stopping/bandwidth throttling options. Might want to give it a try. Free, open source, and doesn't have the crud that a lot of others I found do (https://sourceforge.net/projects/xdman/)
Thanks for posting this....no doubt some might be able to make use of it.

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DBDigital: A thought did recently occur to me, I wonder if GOG would entertain the possiblity of a Galaxy lite client that is 99% downloader? Doesn't seem like that would take much since they have that feature already, just remove the extra. Granted a return of the GOG downloader would be 1000X better (and a lot faster), but at least it (might) do away with largest issues many of us have with the Galaxy client.
This would also be a good compromise....if only people could convince GOG to do it.
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DBDigital: A thought did recently occur to me, I wonder if GOG would entertain the possiblity of a Galaxy lite client that is 99% downloader? Doesn't seem like that would take much since they have that feature already, just remove the extra. Granted a return of the GOG downloader would be 1000X better (and a lot faster), but at least it (might) do away with largest issues many of us have with the Galaxy client.
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GameRager: This would also be a good compromise....if only people could convince GOG to do it.
They already found a useful... person called Timboli who will do the work, so they surely won't allocate any resources to this. In fact, I guess they counted on someone stepping in the decision to kill off GOGDownloader.
Post edited June 13, 2020 by coffeecup
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coffeecup: They already found a useful... person called Timboli who will do the work, so they surely won't allocate any resources to this. In fact, I guess they counted on someone stepping in the decision to kill off GOGDownloader.
Tbh I think maybe it's best a community member makes such an app/program.....as often programs made by companies are bloated, aren't easy to use, etc.
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GameRager: Besides maybe a bit of personal healing via venting about this, though, there is little reason to state such anymore(well beyond newcomers stating such).

GOG already knows how the ones who already posted feel(even me).....and in spades.
I was not talking about myself but rather about those newcomers who still come here. I was simply answering a question but such things do happen when you reply to answers that never were meant for you to be for answered.
Also it is not up for you to decide when it is enough or not. Stop acting as if you work or speak for GOG.
Post edited June 13, 2020 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: That's exactly my point - we just don't know if it were the links (no matter if I believe this or not). Of course my own theory is just an assumption as well ... never wanted to say anything else. My point was that this:

"Anyway, the logic stacks up, even if the evidence doesn't. :)"

Is not true. It might be ONE logic but not the only one, so it still is not a fact. So a "maybe" or probly" woule be the better way to describe it.
Well, I guess it depends how you define 'logic stacks up'. To me it is not saying 'irrefutable fact', just a strong possibility.
And I never said it was the only logic, and there is certainly yours, which I have conceded might be better than mine ... probably is.

So I think we are mostly in agreeance here, except you have possibly misunderstood me a little ... shit happens, and I'm not perfect either ... ha ha ha.

The problem really, is that GOG gave no real specifics, are not really transparent, etc, etc ... so we are left to our own assumptions based on the little we know and our own use of logic ... and that can vary a lot.

I would add, that whatever method or scripting GOG were using, wasn't perfect either, as I often found stuff available as browser links, wasn't available through the GOG Downloader. So there appears to have been some flaw in the way they were doing things, which let human error creep in. This has been a variety of stuff over time, and of course only known to me via the games I own, so one wonders how much more across all games. It was things like Soundtracks, original game versions, all manner of game extras, even patches occasionally.
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GameRager: I still think people can look back a few posts to find a wishlist link.....it doesn't need to be posted every 2-3 posts.
Where did this ever happen, where there wasn't a good reason for it?
And it's not always about how many posts, but often about how big those in-between posts are.
Plus I admit to reposting sooner sometimes, because quite frankly you seemed to be posting in an attempt to have the last word or to counter my posts, further your own agenda, etc.

Take off your blinkers too. I wasn't just posting for those who knew but couldn't find the so-called 'wishlist link'. It was more for new visitors. Honestly you are unbelievable sometimes with your narrow scope of thinking.

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LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
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We are up to 1390 votes now .... they just keep coming.
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GameRager: ... and also: all galaxy 1/1.2 users are getting forcibly upgraded btw to galaxy 2 unless they tweak a few settings to prevent it.
That's a lie. I get a popup that asks me to update and I can close that with a "Update later" button. No tweaking of anything necessary.
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GameRager: ... and also: all galaxy 1/1.2 users are getting forcibly upgraded btw to galaxy 2 unless they tweak a few settings to prevent it.
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Acriz: That's a lie. I get a popup that asks me to update and I can close that with a "Update later" button. No tweaking of anything necessary.
Oh really? Hmm, I see on the Galaxy forums of people clicking "update later" and next time you start Galaxy it IS updated, if you say anything or not. Like a Microsoft "yes now or yes later when I restart" when they do updates. But no real "no" offered.

If that is the case, perhaps they stopped forcing it after all the backlash. Since I haven't used/installed Galaxy since this new update situation happened (was trying out 1.2 out a couple of months ago), I can't verify one way or the other.
Regarding Galaxy, I wish to post a couple of points.

The whole point of Galaxy is to get everyone on a level playing field. This will help gog on multiple levels, from developer/publisher to the end user. Yeah, yeah we all know the model it has been based on and there is no real need to discuss it unless some people are not totally up on the details.

But a simple detail is this: do not expect to run Galaxy for any length of time if it is not the current release from gog. It is simply not practicable: you are the end user and you need to use the latest release. That is the price you will need to pay for whatever convenience you associate with using a client.

Of course none of this was ever an issue for those who used the gogdownloader; I believe that it has been removed for the reasons above.

On a separate note, regarding Gameragers continual need to dissect any post in this topic, usually ending in an expression that attempts to dissuade others from debate or states that the discussion is no longer relevant, please consider not replying at all.

The votes to gog to reverse the decision to drop the gogdownloader continue to rise.

If you wish to and have not done so already, you can also vote. Details in the community wishlist section.
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Acriz: That's a lie. I get a popup that asks me to update and I can close that with a "Update later" button. No tweaking of anything necessary.
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DBDigital: Oh really? Hmm, I see on the Galaxy forums of people clicking "update later" and next time you start Galaxy it IS updated, if you say anything or not. Like a Microsoft "yes now or yes later when I restart" when they do updates. But no real "no" offered.

If that is the case, perhaps they stopped forcing it after all the backlash. Since I haven't used/installed Galaxy since this new update situation happened (was trying out 1.2 out a couple of months ago), I can't verify one way or the other.
Well the whole update process was bugged in the beginning, and I got the first notice for the update over two weeks later after the first post on the forums appeared. I can happily say: It bugged out in my favour. But who knows what problems await with an outdated client down the line.
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lazydog: Regarding Galaxy, I wish to post a couple of points.

*snip*
But a simple detail is this: do not expect to run Galaxy for any length of time if it is not the current release from gog. It is simply not practicable: you are the end user and you need to use the latest release. That is the price you will need to pay for whatever convenience you associate with using a client.

Of course none of this was ever an issue for those who used the gogdownloader; I believe that it has been removed for the reasons above.
*snip*
Well some aspects of it yes, the multiplayer game systems will likely need regular updates. But simple downloading and installing, not as much. They still work the same way (mostly) as the browser download except the client does it all (and sadly slower). Unless everything is changed so that even browser downloads don't work anymore, then yes the client would be needed regardless. But I think most people here would leave in that case, and I would be one of them.

But the aspect of not having to update as much would be another advantage of a Galaxy Lite version that just did downloads and perhaps installs IF you wanted (for those that like that, I don't). A Galaxy lite version wouldn't have to be updated near as much if at all. Similar to GOG Downloader was fine for many years. But yes the client's multiplayer aspects will likely have to be updated on a regular basis or those aspects will stop working at some point if you keep using the old client. But just doing downloads and installs should work for quite a while, unless well...we know what happens then and we are all hoping GOG DOESN'T go there.
Post edited June 13, 2020 by DBDigital
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lazydog: Regarding Galaxy, I wish to post a couple of points.

*snip*
But a simple detail is this: do not expect to run Galaxy for any length of time if it is not the current release from gog. It is simply not practicable: you are the end user and you need to use the latest release. That is the price you will need to pay for whatever convenience you associate with using a client.

Of course none of this was ever an issue for those who used the gogdownloader; I believe that it has been removed for the reasons above.
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DBDigital: Well some aspects of it yes, the multiplayer game systems will likely need regular updates. But simple downloading and installing, not as much. They still work the same way (mostly) as the browser download except the client does it all (and sadly slower). Unless everything is changed so that even browser downloads don't work anymore, then yes the client would be needed regardless. But I think most people here would leave in that case, and I would be one of them.

But the aspect of not having to update as much would be another advantage of a Galaxy Lite version that just did downloads and perhaps installs IF you wanted (for those that like that, I don't). A Galaxy lite version wouldn't have to be updated near as much if at all. Similar to GOG Downloader was fine for many years. But yes the client's multiplayer aspects will likely have to be updated on a regular basis or those aspects will stop working at some point if you keep using the old client. But just doing downloads and installs should work for quite a while, unless well...we know what happens then and we are all hoping GOG DOESN'T go there.
It does not really have a lot to do with multi-player per se. It is about keeping the product up to date- that includes all patches etc and ensures gog can provide easy support as well as making it easy for devs/pubs.

Whether or not that makes it easier for customers is the problem here in my opinion.

There has already been a major move by gog to include Galaxy information inside offline installers for example.

There will probably never be a Galaxy Lite nor a reprieve for the gogdownloader. I suspect it is time for the user that cares to make their own decisions.

Of course there is nothing wrong with letting gog know that they have probably already crossed the line.
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MarkoH01: I was not talking about myself but rather about those newcomers who still come here.
I know...I was musing on that(I do that a lot...muse on things people say, that is).

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MarkoH01: Also it is not up for you to decide when it is enough or not. Stop acting as if you work or speak for GOG.
I was simply musing on the issue(as said above) and what some others(like yourself) said, and not trying to force anyone to stop.
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Acriz: That's a lie. I get a popup that asks me to update and I can close that with a "Update later" button. No tweaking of anything necessary.
Dunno if others replied to this, but many people were getting forcibly updated to galaxy 2.0...there were even a few threads about it with forum regulars and newcomers chiming in.

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lazydog: Of course there is nothing wrong with letting gog know that they have probably already crossed the line.
There is nothing wrong with it, but at this point I think it's likely a better use of one's time to find alternatives to GOG DLer(or new stores to buy from).
Post edited June 14, 2020 by GameRager
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For those who seem to not get the point i've been trying to make for some time now and who keep asking me why I keep posting here...here is one of the main reasons:

I was like some here in the past.....I tried getting stuff changed(like the broken rep system) for YEARS....complaining in the forums, making wishlist voting things, contacting staff, etc......and in all that time I never once made much of a dent in those issues(except maybe rude and rule breaking users being modded).

As such, I have come to the realization that it is mostly a waste of time for the common users like us, and while I still try to affect change for the better on GOG from time to time, i've mostly dropped it as life is short & there are much bigger issues in life(including ones I might actually be able to solve in whole or in part).

And that is one of the reasons I post here....because i've been in the same "shoes" before, and don't want to see people wasting the time they have on movements that are very likely going to achieve little(from gog's end).

So if someone here wants to not get what I am doing here or what I am trying to say for whatever reason, that is fine.....I tried my best to show that I mean no harm or disrespect to most here(with my posts here) & that I actually support the cause in part, and if some don't want to see that(or even want to paint me the bad guy for just speaking my mind), then I guess there's little I can do to change their mind & I guess people can believe what they want.
Post edited June 14, 2020 by GameRager