Thanks for the reply...that said I write some things to note near the bottom of the replies and also in the bolded bits(sorry for the wall of text btw): ============================================
Timboli: Have you really thought deeply about what those numbers mean and what they don't, or are you just taking them in superficially on face value?
No, i'm taking them in how a business likely would....comparing numbers of users who want something vs the entire user base, and how much it would bring in vs cost them to do that thing.
(And some other factors like ease of implementation, etc)
Timboli: The sale of one game is meaningless in the bigger picture.
Depends upon the game, but I somewhat agree.
Timboli: Does that number equate to how many customers GOG have on a regular basis?
I'd be extremely surprised to find they have even a tenth of that number regularly.
Many may have specifically come to GOG to get that game, and never been back since. No doubt a good number have bought the whole Witcher series, but maybe nothing else here.
Gog still has them as registered customers/users and possible future customers.....heck the one game demo(or freebie) recently had 300K(iirc) users DL it alone.
But even if we cut out a third of them that's still a much larger number than those that want the GOG DLer back.
Timboli: For a store to ignore over 1,000 customers, make them unhappy, is not a good way to run a business. Especially, as those who care enough about the GOG Downloader, would be regulars, not just someone doing a rare purchase, where the downloader did not matter.
It might not seem fair(and it likely isn't in some ways), but that's how a good number of businesses operate....by the "cold" numbers and not what every other user(even me) might want.
Yes, 1,000 users is a big number by itself, but not when compared with a likely user base in the hundreds of thousands.....it's likely GOG sadly doesn't see losing a chunk of 1,000 users as that much of a loss(to them), financially speaking.....especially when they probably can gain that many new users later on with various means and methods.
Timboli: I am pretty sure that everyone who wants the GOG Downloader back, is not naive and expecting it to happen. That is not a good reason to not protest though, and like I spent a whole other post talking about, there are other aspects. You read that post of mine, but somehow missed my very first sentence, where I say -
While I suspect they won't, if only not to lose face now, never say never. When I replied to that post I wasn't talking about you specifically....just that that was the vibe that some others seemed to give off(to me).
Timboli: Who said we are not enjoying our lives or not focusing most of our energy elsewhere?
We come here now and then and make the odd post or three.
You attribute denial, because you do not reason fully. You attribute denial because you do not look deep enough.
Sorry for the seeming miscommunication.....I was trying to mainly just posit denial as one likely reason a FEW(in general) were possibly still sticking with this.....I wasn't trying to say that everyone sticking to this was in denial.
If it came off that way then I say that was not my original intent, and I am sorry if it came off the wrong way when you(or anyone else) read it. Timboli: I am not a denialist, what I say is based on good solid reasoning. Just because I don't always provide the detail, like I have done above, or because I am fed up repeating myself, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's not up to me to do all the thinking.
Again, I never meant to say you were a denialist, that bit was just me musing/positing on possible reasons some might be sticking to this, and how I worried for such people a bit(for those that exist).
Timboli: Give us a break!
I am.....I have been silently supporting the movement from Day 1(though not how all were acting in said movement at all times). Even if I see it as unlikely and dislike how some(not you specifically) have been acting(in whole or in part) in regards to it, doesn't mean I didn't or don't support it. :)
As such, I am hoping for the best outcome, but since I don't hold a good outlook on such(given GOG's track record) I am "hedging my bets" with other new stores and such......to maybe convince GOG(via some lost sales) to change their ways, or to at least have a backup to turn to.
Of course that only works if many more would join in.....so if it will work, well we'll just have to see, I guess.
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Timboli: We are up to 1138 votes now .... still steadily climbing.
An aside: This reminds me of that easter egg in some games and films....THX 1138 I think it is.
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Maxvorstadt: Well, there`s a german saying that says: "One who fights might lose, but one who doesn`t fight has lost already!".
True......very very very true....still, there is such a thing as a lost cause(in general that is)....of course recognizing it can be a hard part.
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rjbuffchix: Cheers, man, next round's on me :D
Salud! *tips back glass* rjbuffchix: And no matter what people might say, maybe all of us can agree the number of wishlist votes is much larger than expected. That is, I assume most people expected this wish to "fizzle out" at a few hundred votes yet it is over 1,000 and still steadily growing.
It has grown, I will admit that....still, some other things have(as said ad nauseum) a ton more votes and GOG doesn't fulfill them....one being a linux version of galaxy, which many more have been more vocal about for a longer period.
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amok: and how many of these 1000 people will stop using gOg? How many of them are 'regular users', by the way? The downloader has been disabled for some time now - exactly how has it impacted on gOg?
These are good points. Even if 1,000+ users want this back, if a good number of them didn't buy much anyways or continue to buy during all this, it likely doesn't help the effort as much or incentivize GOG to change much on this.
