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If I may ask: if anyone honestly thinks posting about zoom is spam and my trying to help worthy of a low rating, then please indulge me an answer if possible: Why would/should anyone be against a gog alternative[even for partial buying or as a backup storefront] at this point given the way GOG has treated some of you on this and other topics?

YES, the votes are near 1,100 & that is a decent achievement on it's own[compared to some wishlist entries]....but at this point I don't think GOG would give in even if it got to 5,000.....everyone here has been pushing[some more and some less] for this for over a month, and no result or reply[that I know of] from GOG....at some point imo it'd be best to either try something new[site to buy from or method to get GOG DLer back] or try a new method to succeed[maybe buying from zoom or such and buying less on GOG would work if enough did it?].
Post edited May 19, 2020 by GameRager
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Moonbeam: Any chance we can get some feedback on the wish for the downloader coming back?
I don't want to be mean, but I think you need a reality check.

Downloader is not coming back.

It's not gonna happen.

Just no.

That is not a judgment on the "worthiness" of your cause. Or the merits of the downloader. Or anything else. It's a statement of fact.

GOG commited to abandoning the downloader years ago. And it's been entirely gone for months now. If this decision was to negatively impact GOG enough to make them revert, it would have happened by now. If they gave enough of a shit to give you a response, they would have by now. If you want to keep "fighting" this as a point of honor, for the principle of the thing - power to you. I can certainly respect that. But if you think there's a snowball's chance in hell GOG will actually change their mind about this, you're being delusional.
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Breja: GOG commited to abandoning the downloader years ago. And it's been entirely gone for months now. If this decision was to negatively impact GOG enough to make them revert, it would have happened by now. If they gave enough of a shit to give you a response, they would have by now. If you want to keep "fighting" this as a point of honor, for the principle of the thing - power to you. I can certainly respect that. But if you think there's a snowball's chance in hell GOG will actually change their mind about this, you're being delusional.
Is it moths already?
While I do agree that GOG probably already made up their minds (I am sure that they made up their minds before this even started) I also think that it won't hurt when people keep complaining. Maybe just as a reminder for GOG to see that they stepped on the toes of more people they thought ...
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MarkoH01: Is it moths already?
Just checked back...seems it's been 2 months, not 1 like I thought....but yeah.

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MarkoH01: While I do agree that GOG probably already made up their minds (I am sure that they made up their minds before this even started) I also think that it won't hurt when people keep complaining.
It may not hurt but it's not like it helps the ones doing it much....there's only so much mental healing and such one can get from essentially yelling at the void/wall, and at this point it becomes counter productive(also everyone doing so could likely be doing things that matter more in their lives and those of their loved ones at this point...and yes, that includes me somewhat as well).

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MarkoH01: Maybe just as a reminder for GOPG to see that they stepped on the toes of more people they thought ...
They likely know just how many toes they stepped on or close to it, the problem is they don't seem to care....heck, they didn't care about switching people to galaxy 2 from galaxy 1 en masse(I don't use either, but feel that was a worse decision as it likely impacted more people and was essentially tampering with people's installs...just my two cents).
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All that said, I hope new competitors like the one I mentioned maybe coax GOG into cleaning up it's act for those here and others who felt GOG has been less than stellar as of late, or that they can provide people with an alternative if they so need it and want such.

(Also I wanted to take the time to apologize if I bothered you too much these past few months with this topic and how I handled it....have a good one and stay safe/well as always)
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Breja: But if you think there's a snowball's chance in hell GOG will actually change their mind about this, you're being delusional.
While I suspect they won't, if only not to lose face now, never say never.

As you say though, this is also about principles. It is also as MarkoH01 says, about letting them know exactly how many are unhappy about the decision to disable the GOG Downloader.

But not only those things.

It is also sending a very clear message about where GOG may be heading, and how many of us feel about that.

You can also never discount that they may change their mind to some degree, maybe even have done so, due to our response, and are working on a light version of Galaxy or an option to disable elements in Galaxy, and make it lighter on system resources. Be nice if they also reconsider and continue with support for Win 7.

It is also incentive to encourage a third party to develop a proper GOG centric downloader or give specific GOG support to an existing one.

P.S. Someone earlier in this topic, mentioned a bunch of GOG downloaders, which I have now more fully investigated and come away totally disappointed. Most no longer seem to work, in Windows anyway.

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LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date

We are up to 1101 votes now .... still steadily climbing.
Post edited May 19, 2020 by Timboli
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It is also incentive to encourage a third party to develop a proper GOG centric downloader or give specific GOG support to an existing one.
This is the most likely outcome, I suspect, and would love to see happen for all those who need or desire such.

*fingers crossed that it happens*

P.S. Someone earlier in this topic, mentioned a bunch of GOG downloaders, which I have now more fully investigated and come away totally disappointed. Most no longer seem to work, in Windows anyway.
So Gogrepo doesn't work in windows(never checked)? That sucks.
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Also to all: I'm sorry if I bothered some here too much over the past few months....I know it's been hard on everyone.

I'll be buying drinks at the bar if anyone wants one, due to all this(GOG DLer drop, the galaxy switch, Covid, etc).....or if anyone just wants to chit chat a bit.

*GR takes drink and sits at the far end of the bar, swirling whiskey on ice in his glass*
Post edited May 19, 2020 by GameRager
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GameRager: Also to all: I'm sorry if I bothered some here too much over the past few months....I know it's been hard on everyone.
Well as they say, actions speak louder than words, so we will see how things go. At the moment though, it does feel a bit like the boy who cried wolf ... ha ha ha.

I did not revisit the Gogrepo, which I may still do. My focus was mainly on seeing what worked and what I could get clues from to build my own downloader, especially in regard to using wget.exe ... which I've not had success with yet.

I have managed to get a couple of downloads of the now disappeared JGOGDownloader, from the Wayback Machine.

Alas, these days I am limited to the language I code in, so tough on my old brain to revisit Java and Python etc, which I never did much with anyway. Hard to get motivated too, when I have so many other interests.

And to be honest, with all the free games I have gotten from all over the place during this COVID event, many of them DRM-Free from IndieGala and Itch.io and Giveaway Of The Day etc, I have less incentive to bother doing my own downloader. I have a huge number of freebies with Steam and Epic now, so I am almost overwhelmed by the sheer number of games I currently have to play. I got a ton of free ones from the Microsoft Store too, and have started building a free library at Origin.

I need never buy another game again, and still probably not play them all, just once each, before I die.

I still love and prefer GOG though, and if they get the games I want at the prices I am prepared to pay, I will keep buying, even if constantly irritated with the downloader situation. My current downloading & checking setup works well enough, if more time consuming and a bit more fiddly than I like ... still, better than using Galaxy. EDIT - And the upshot, is that my checking program also works great for downloads from some other game stores and even beyond games ... anything that involves ZIP files (zip, 7z, rar, bz2, pk4, sh) and any EXE ones built with InnoSetup.

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https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date
Post edited May 19, 2020 by Timboli
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Timboli: Well as they say, actions speak louder than words, so we will see how things go. At the moment though, it does feel a bit like the boy who cried wolf ... ha ha ha.
Tbh I have been in silent support of the IDEA of GOG supporting people somehow on this from day 1......I just disliked how some(in general) acted over wanting it back(and how some others like me got treated for speaking our minds) and vented a bit due to that.....and also my rampant realism(due to seeing how the world is and works over the years) has allowed me to see things without the "optimism glasses", and when I saw some seemingly in denial I felt the need(and still do to some extent) to speak my mind about such.

(Plus I just like to talk, and the number of decent topics worth discussing on GOG has dwindled over the years, sadly)

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Timboli: I have managed to get a couple of downloads of the now disappeared JGOGDownloader, from the Wayback Machine.
Aside: I love the wayback machine....so much stuff saved there that is no longer on the net anymore.

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Timboli: Hard to get motivated too, when I have so many other interests.
You're speaking to the choir on this.....I have so many games/movies/things to do I wonder how i'll ever find time for it all.

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Timboli: I need never buy another game again, and still probably not play them all, just once each, before I die.
I'm likely in the same boat....yet I love the one I grew up with the most and keep going back to them, despite needing and wanting to play some newer ones.

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Timboli: I still love and prefer GOG though, and if they get the games I want at the prices I am prepared to pay, I will keep buying, even if constantly irritated with the downloader situation. My current downloading & checking setup works well enough, if more time consuming and a bit more fiddly than I like ... still better than using Galaxy.
I do as well, but I am also looking into zoom as they have some games GOG doesn't that I like....like Curse: Eye of Isis and a few others.
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Timboli: ...
We are up to 1101 votes now .... still steadily climbing.
What? 13 votes only??
*ba-dum-crash*

...OK, I just wanted to make silly programmer humor.
I agree with Marko, although the downloader will almost certainly never come back, at least we should be heard.
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Panaias: ..OK, I just wanted to make silly programmer humor.
I agree with Marko, although the downloader will almost certainly never come back, at least we should be heard.
Tbh I agree more for new voices who haven't yet spoken, but why should people feel the need to be heard if they already said their peace for almost 2 months?

To vent? Seems like venting a bit should be good enough in such cases, and venting too much is a waste of time/counterproductive.

To get GOG to notice? I think it's safe to assume they know about this after 2 months of effort.

But eh, everyone do everyone.....just musing, is all.
Post edited May 19, 2020 by GameRager
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Andrea Bocelli has something to say about this topic too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L_yCwFD6Jo
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Panaias: What? 13 votes only??
*ba-dum-crash*

...OK, I just wanted to make silly programmer humor.
I agree with Marko, although the downloader will almost certainly never come back, at least we should be heard.
Ha ha. As they say - Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

Anyway, you are wrong .... it's a couple more freckles than that.

LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date

We are up to 1106 votes now .... still steadily climbing.
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Timboli: We are up to 1106 votes now...
I don't want to rain on your parade, but you are aware that that's just around 0,16% of the GOG userbase, right?
(based on the numbers of copies of "The Witcher 3", directly sold through GOG (= 690.000, as of June 2015).
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BreOl72: I don't want to rain on your parade ....
Been mentioned before and irrelevant ... a false comparison and way too simplistic.

Have a think a bit more deeply about what those numbers actually mean. ;)
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Timboli: Been mentioned before and irrelevant ... a false comparison and way too simplistic.
Businesses usually operate based on the numbers, and even if the number was ten times what the number of votes in actuality(in terms of support) that's still very low numbers & likely not enticing enough for GOG to consider.

(Anyways in case you wondered why I[at the very least...don't know about & can't speak for others] keep replying to this thread...it's because of seemingly denial filled posts like this one....in how you and others seem to not want to admit it's a likely losing battle.

And it comes from a mostly good place.....I don't like to see anyone waste their time on such unlikely things, when they could be enjoying their lives and focusing their energies elsewhere.)
Post edited May 21, 2020 by GameRager