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Moonbeam: Giggles, no, your posts are rather stressful and am sure they bring in votes because of that.
Then at least my posts are doing some good(if they bring some more attention to the cause you/others are working on, I mean).

(BTW I am actually in support of an alternative for those who need/want one if GOG doesn't bring it back.....and wouldn't mind if they did bring it back...I just dislike how a few have handled this decision by GOG, is all, and also how consumed some seem to be by this one cause)
Post edited April 10, 2020 by GameRager
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You think, our fight is a lost cause and you think we should not post here at all because it is senseless. You only posted this to tell us your opinion. Well - you did. We disagree but we heard your opinion.
The thing is, it likely IS senseless(though there is a slight chance it COULD succeed)...it is akin to trying to carve a tunnel through a mountain with a pickaxe instead of better methods.

So do you really want to convince us to stop our fight and stop posting here for GOG to see?
No, I wish some trying these methods would try better methods(that are more likely to succeed), or be able to move on when/if it becomes apparent the cause is truly lost.

Oh - and we are still posting here because we DON'T think that our fight is already lost ... at least we don't think that it is a bad idea to let GOG know that we are still offended.
It's been one month, the wishlist has 600 votes, and GOG hasn't replied beyond their one reply on the matter....I would say it's likely a good chance that the cause is lost, and that those fighting for it(yourself included) should try new methods that will work or be prepared to move on(mentally, I mean)(of course that's just advice....not me trying to make anyone do anything).

I mean ... wait ... perhaps you are just bored in your live and doing this for entertainment. In that case let me please tell you that this might entertain you but it's extremely annoying for everybody else.
If it's that annoying, just do what others do: just click the minus sign next to my posts and move on.....it's not that hard to do, and then you don't need to get offended by my posts.

(Also no, I am not doing this for entertainment.....I just see this as a lost cause or close to one, and those sticking to it are living in denial, and am posting my thoughts on such hoping that maybe some will come to their senses and try something that will work or move on[mentally] from this is need be)

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Breja: I seriously don't get why are you all still responding to this guy. He's just about the most obvious troll since Bert, Tom and William from The Hobbit.
As the guy from The Princess Bride said: "I don't think that word means what you think it means."

I'm not trolling(or trying to troll)....I am just criticizing.....it seems these days some(including yourself) seem to think criticism of others or people not agreeing with/being nice to others 24/7 is trolling.
Post edited April 10, 2020 by GameRager
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You think, our fight is a lost cause and you think we should not post here at all because it is senseless. You only posted this to tell us your opinion. Well - you did. We disagree but we heard your opinion.
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GameRager: I and others have also heard the opinions you and others hold on this...but you and others still post them. What I mean to say is that I am not the only one repeating themselves here.

Also it likely IS senseless(though there is a slight chance it COULD succeed)...it is akin to trying to carve a tunnel through a mountain with a pickaxe instead of better methods.

So do you really want to convince us to stop our fight and stop posting here for GOG to see?
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GameRager: No, I wish some trying these methods would try better methods(that are more likely to succeed) and also be able to move on when it becomes apparent the cause is truly lost.

Oh - and we are still posting here because we DON'T think that our fight is already lost ... at least we don't think that it is a bad idea to let GOG know that we are still offended.
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GameRager: It's been one month, the wishlist has 600 votes, and GOG hasn't replied beyond their one reply on the matter....I would say it's likely a good chance that the cause is lost, and that those fighting for it(yourself included) should try new methods that will work or be prepared to move on(mentally, I mean)(of course that's just advice....not me trying to make anyone do anything).

I mean ... wait ... perhaps you are just bored in your live and doing this for entertainment. In that case let me please tell you that this might entertain you but it's extremely annoying for everybody else.
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GameRager: Then just click the minus sign next to my posts and move on.....it's not that hard to do, and then you don't need to get offended by my posts.

(Also no, I am not doing this for entertainment.....I just see this as a lost cause or close to one, and those sticking to it are living in denial, and am posting my thought on such hoping that maybe some will come to their senses and try something that will work or move on[mentally] from this is need be)
Also there are stuff on that Wishlist that go unfulfilled that have thousands of votes. Like for example the Galaxy client for Linux that has over 25K votes. Also if you see the stats. 2,127,072 votes fulfilled out of 7,061,294 votes cast which is roughly over 30% successful rate.

https://www.gog.com/wishlist
Post edited April 10, 2020 by Fender_178
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Fender_178: Also there are stuff on that Wishlist that go unfulfilled that have thousands of votes. Like for example the Galaxy client for Linux that has over 25K votes. Also if you see the stats. 2,127,072 votes fulfilled out of 7,061,294 votes cast which is roughly over 30% successful rate.
That and other trends i've noticed on GOG lead me to believe that this(sadly) won't go anywhere, and that those trying for this have very slim chances of succeeding & would likely be better off doing something else(finding or making an alternative, using the browser DL option, using another store to buy from, etc) instead.

(Of course I also wish I was wrong on some of this)

But I can see why some might be emotionally invested in such(i've been invested in some things in such ways myself at some points in my life) and might not be able to(or don't want to) see that.

Tbh I wish them well, and if they succeed i'd be happy for them....I just hope they can move on if need be and don't stick to this/let this consume them too much for an overly long time....like Ahab and his whale.
Post edited April 10, 2020 by GameRager
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GameRager: But I can see why some might be emotionally invested in such(i've been invested in some things in such ways myself at some points in my life)
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Fairfox: (◐‿◑)
I LOVE this.....emoji......can I keep it for future use? :)
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DBDigital: Just one thing, if you didn't notice (or it might have been mentioned in this thread and I missed it lol), there is a integrity check when you use the offline installers. While the GOG installer doesn't mention this by default, if you misname a file in a several file game/archive it does say that a file is missing and will be prompted for but integrity check will not occur.

I don't know how robust this check is compared to yours, but it is there at least.
Yep I am aware of that. :)

The issue though, is archiving without having to install first to check. :(
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Fender_178: Keep fighting the good fight. However there is a good chance that you will lose though because I have seen quite a few wishlist items that go up on GOG with several thousand votes that GOG didn't do anything about or they tired and didn't succeed and I have seen others succeed.
While that might superficially seem the same, it really isn't.

Most of those wishes are for things that never existed and so require time, work and effort to achieve.
The GOG Downloader already exists, already had support etc etc.

So I imagine it is as simple as making a decision, to restore.
Post edited April 10, 2020 by Timboli
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GameRager: You honestly think you'd get tons more votes/etc if I didn't post here?
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Moonbeam: Giggles, no, your posts are rather stressful and am sure they bring in votes because of that.
You reckon.

That's making an awfully big assumption.

Any good posts here, informative etc, are often lost in the wash of his huge pointless posts, and those of the other negatives, and that is why I keep having to repost.

I can admit though, that any post keeps the topic alive, so I will grant you that. But it still requires those of us who do actually care and who are here for the right reasons, to continually post ... which we would do in any case.

So thanks, but no thanks, you negatives really ain't needed .... we just need to bump once in a while.
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My program, GOGDownload Checker, has been updated to v1.2, and uploaded.

The update includes support for BZ2 files, and RAR files now require UnRAR, as 7-Zip surprisingly does not test RAR files, despite being able to open them. I have also added support for PDF files, and have been looking into media files, though not added that yet. Several more options have been added to the console window, as can be seen in the screenshot at GitHub.

See my project here - https://github.com/Twombs/GOGDownload-Checker

Latest release here - https://github.com/Twombs/GOGDownload-Checker/releases

At best, my program is just a slow stop-gap measure, but needed right now, because file integrity for archiving is vitally important.
It is not a replacement for the GOG Downloader, only a helper while it is missing.

My program is not a 100% guarantee, but it is far better than nothing.

This is why we need the GOG Downloader back.

LET GOG KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BY VOTING
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date

Still steadily climbing, there is 686 votes now.
https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/keep_the_gog_downloader_and_keep_it_up_to_date

Don't forget to vote.
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DBDigital: Just one thing, if you didn't notice (or it might have been mentioned in this thread and I missed it lol), there is a integrity check when you use the offline installers. While the GOG installer doesn't mention this by default, if you misname a file in a several file game/archive it does say that a file is missing and will be prompted for but integrity check will not occur.

I don't know how robust this check is compared to yours, but it is there at least.
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Timboli: Yep I am aware of that. :)

The issue though, is archiving without having to install first to check. :(
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Fender_178: Keep fighting the good fight. However there is a good chance that you will lose though because I have seen quite a few wishlist items that go up on GOG with several thousand votes that GOG didn't do anything about or they tired and didn't succeed and I have seen others succeed.
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Timboli: While that might superficially seem the same, it really isn't.

Most of those wishes are for things that never existed and so require time, work and effort to achieve.
The GOG Downloader already exists, already had support etc etc.

So I imagine it is as simple as making a decision, to restore.
I am just saying that there is a good chance that they won't reinstate the downloder is all.
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Timboli: Yep I am aware of that. :)

The issue though, is archiving without having to install first to check. :(

While that might superficially seem the same, it really isn't.

Most of those wishes are for things that never existed and so require time, work and effort to achieve.
The GOG Downloader already exists, already had support etc etc.

So I imagine it is as simple as making a decision, to restore.
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Fender_178: I am just saying that there is a good chance that they won't reinstate the downloder is all.
They indeed won't, because it'd go against their interest, which is coercing people to use the galaxy client (while keeping a non-coercitive image).

Besides all the classic "voluntary spyware" aspects of all social network devices, client offers a branded layer between he game and the user. It makes of gog not a mere purveyor of videogames, but the home in which you play them. Which favors a different sort of customer loyalty (the "no steam no buy" kind). It's like Disney encouraging you to launch every movie from the friendly Mickey Mouse Cinematron App. And it works. There's identification and a sense of convenience which is already normalizing game clients (for some reason games are becoming special softs deemed too confusing to launch from the desktop directly) and building corporate identities around their usage (don't diss gog you're dissing the home i've invested in).

It's a long deliberate strategy, a whole history of flipping the finger to non-galaxy customers. There's a benefit in swapping players who don't use clients for players who do. And having customers who, basically, never step out of the shop while consuming what they bought there.

So yeah, these complains are purely symbolic. Flipping the finger back. But expecting a change of course from the gog marketers, no. They're capitalizing on what is the most common approach to gaming nowadays. The niche "old school" approach that they used to pander to has been now calculated as a mere hindrance to get rid of. If anything, such decisions help filtering its remaining proponents out.
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Timboli: Any good posts here, informative etc, are often lost in the wash of his huge pointless posts, and those of the other negatives, and that is why I keep having to repost.
You don't technically need to repost, though(unless you have updates to your program or have new info to share).....people can look back for older posts by you/others if they want to read them, or bypass mine if need be, can't they?

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Timboli: But it still requires those of us who do actually care and who are here for the right reasons, to continually post ... which we would do in any case.
You seem to assume I or others don't care because of what we say....if you read some of my posts(like my last post in the main thread on this topic) you'd see that isn't the case......at least with regards to me(can't speak for others, of course).

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Timboli: It is not a replacement for the GOG Downloader, only a helper while it is missing.

Still steadily climbing, there is 686 votes now.
While I applaud you for doing this(the program you're making and pushing for the wishlist), there is a very good chance it won't come back....even if it gets 5 times the votes it has now.

(though of course i'd be glad to be wrong on this)
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Addition: Please note my reply in the main thread(most recent one).....after this post I would like to skip the back-forth on this and just focus on the topic at hand if possible, as Calvalary suggested.....as such, if you could refrain from posting about me(to the best of your ability) and stick to just the topic I will respond in kind(to the best of my ability).

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Fender_178: I am just saying that there is a good chance that they won't reinstate the downloder is all.
This is why I mentioned the same thing earlier(either in this thread or another...I forget atm) and the same point I was trying to make.....and also that they shouldn't let themselves be consumed them too much for what is likely a nearly impossible cause.
Post edited April 10, 2020 by GameRager
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Keep at it guys, keep fighting the good fight. If nobody rooted for the underdog, against the odds, the Rocky montage wouldn't be a thing. And that's a great loss. Neither would GOG be a thing for that matter. I don't really understand why people expect you to lie down and give up without a fight at least, if you believe in something.

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Breja: I seriously gon't get why are you all still responding to this guy. He's just about the most obvious troll since Bert, Tom and William from The Hobbit.
Whilst this may be true, I genuinely don't think he is doing it on purpose, or with malicious intent. He clearly just doesn't realise how he comes across or what and why he is saying these things for. If you read between the lines, there is something else going on. People behaving in this way and writing things like this, deserve our pity, not our ire or scorn. I feel bad just downrating, and hoping I don't catch even a glimpse of what's written, for the sake of my bloodpressure and mental health.
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Timboli: Any good posts here, informative etc, are often lost in the wash of his huge pointless posts, and those of the other negatives, and that is why I keep having to repost.
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GameRager: You don't technically need to repost, though(unless you have updates to your program or have new info to share).....people can look back for older posts by you/others if they want to read them, or bypass mine if need be, can't they?
And you can bypass his too, but lest anyone think it all equals out, consider this... The point is that this topic is of people reinforcing their wish to bring GOG Downloader back. So I would say the "dueling posts" are not on equal footing. Even if repetitive, the posts about wanting GOG Downloader back are more productive and more "on-topic" than the posts criticizing them. Just food for thought.