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THIS IS NOT PINATA THREAD! HERE IS PINATA THREAD! You want to go there, please. Do it!

Using Mozilla? Then you should know this:

Firefox will soon be bundling a complex AI-powered self-learning tracing system, which will track your activities and perform political profiling against "strict truth" on server elsewhere with all its installers in future versions. Ability to censor you is not confirmed though.
Link.

"Product .... Mozilla will partner with global media organizations to do this" so it will partner the Lake News makers. For example: Spiegel Online' ex-CEO is Mozilla Foundation CIO now... Spiegel is an extreme yellow.

Evidence suggests that the notorious George , previously responsible for removing whole countries from globe by the [url=http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Radio_Free_Europe/Radio_Liberty]powa of TV(+1), might be the mastermind behind this move:

Evidence link 1.
Evidence link 2. Yes, this is the author of *the* JavaScript and made this project.
More thought food fished from www by immi101:
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immi101: article @Guardian
article @Wired
according to their blog

Google is now featuring factchecks from Full Fact and others in Google Search.
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immi101:
Addition 1.

This is an informational post about serious changes behind widely used software.
Keep this thread politics- and ponies-free please.


Edit N+1: formated like ZFR suggested. Netiquette and stuff. I tried really hard. Pain and sorrow wrapped in sugar candy. Bye, foxy :(( Removed changelog, who reads it anyway?..

Disclamer: ok, since I was trolled mostly in this area - what is my position on this: my position is that I am pro-truth (aka 1, 255, 0xFF, "yes", "true"). Like real truth, not watered down and not biased, not serving interest of some party; but I am not a "truther". I am neither left-winger, not right-winger. I wrote a post topic on possible change in software technology that is ongoing, thats it. You draw your own decisions and (re)search please.
Post edited August 14, 2017 by Lin545
So rather than bothering to summarize, you're going to make me play, "Guess the relevant part?"
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Darvond: So rather than bothering to summarize, you're going to make me play, "Guess the relevant part?"
I have already summarized, there is little to guess. If there is something fake in the links, write it here.
As long as it doesn't affect the way I can use Firefox, I couldn't care less even if Firefox was made by Putin.

It is the same as with all those arguments how the author of some game said something nasty online and that is why you should not buy nor play their game... MEH, I just couldn't care less. I play the game if it is good, not based on what I think about the political views of the game's author.
Post edited August 14, 2017 by timppu
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Lin545: I have already summarized, there is little to guess. If there is something fake in the links, write it here.
No, what I see is, "vague hint", "unhelpful two letters", "proper noun", "vague namedrop", and maybe a buzzword thrown in for good measure.
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OneFiercePuppy: OP proceeds to vomit politics in the most ineffectual passive-agressive fashion I've seen in weeks.
Where exactly please?
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Starmaker: This. Really, with the 24x7 WW2 propaganda, one would think Russians would be at least more reluctant to rant about THE JOOOOOS. Sigh.
I have reported your post. Please keep away from this thread. Thanks.
Is the concern that this will have an impact on the revenue earned by those people from Eastern Europe and Russia who make money making up fake news stories?
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Darvond: No, what I see is, "vague hint", "unhelpful two letters", "proper noun", "vague namedrop", and maybe a buzzword thrown in for good measure.
Well, I am not a news agency and if I compile it into some fast-news-food, as it will become a good target for trolls in attempt to trash this thread.
Compiling it was not my intent either, I only shared something which is publicly available. If there are some inconsistence or misinformation in the linked posts or in my scarce text, feel free to post a correction here.
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Lin545: Keep this thread politics-free please.
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Lin545: ...it will partner the Fake News makers number 1...
I think you just sabotaged whatever argument you were attempting to make.
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htown1980: Is the concern that this will have an impact on the revenue earned by those people from Eastern Europe and Russia who make money making up fake news stories?
The concern is that its a clear censorship attempt by Soros-backed fake news makers. Soros foundation has been issuing grants to various propaganda projects like RL and "*.Reality" (, [url=https://www.idelreal.org/]example, example) which serve the goal of country social and political destabilization.

As to "Eastern Europe and Russia who make money making up fake news stories?" please provide reliable proof to who makes money and with which fake news stories please. The proof must be reliable, the term "reliable source" is not accepted as anyone can attach this label to himself.
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Wishbone: I think you just sabotaged whatever argument you were attempting to make.
Negative. To clear up, any "global" news agency is unreliable by definition.
Post edited August 14, 2017 by Lin545
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Lin545: Some big news, unless you already know them.

This is an informational post about serious changes behind widely used software.
Keep this thread politics-free please.

Foremost, this.
"Product .... Mozilla will partner with global media organizations to do this" (aka it will partner the Fake News makers number 1) And this is a . Who is [url=http://left.ru/inter/2003/december/soros.html]Soros. What's and [url=https://knightcenter.utexas.edu/blog/00-14160-us-repeals-ban-broadcasting-voice-america-other-government-funded-news-american-audien]here.

Then, . Yes, he is the author of *<span class="bold">the</span>* JavaScript. And this is the [url=https://brave.com/]project.
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Anyone who isn't deeply troubled by a major alternative browser distributor announcing that they're going to start fighting "misinformation" is someone who doesn't want to know what's really going on in the world -- which is just the sort of person that mindlessly participates in crimes perpetrated by aggressive states.
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Lin545: Keep this thread politics-free please.
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OneFiercePuppy: OP proceeds to vomit politics in the most ineffectual passive-agressive fashion I've seen in weeks.
You might as well be saying that investigative journalism is about the dissemination of propaganda, and if that's all you have, you have nothing.

So much for critical thinking.
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Lin545: Negative. To clear up, any "global" news agency is unreliable by definition.
I dunno. AP and BBC seem pretty damn reliable. As does PBS.
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Darvond: I dunno. AP and BBC seem pretty damn reliable. As does PBS.
Is this article correct or was debunked?

I am not tracking various news by them, I am a kind of a person which gets shocked when seeing fakes, but then forgets the incident sometime later. I can dig up more stuff if you have interest, but this would be for another thread as it will involve politic discussion (which does not belong on software forum).

Anyways, I have added a summary. Feel free to correct it if you see it differently or object it.
Post edited August 14, 2017 by Lin545
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wat

It's a special kind of stupidity behind these switch away from Firefox movements, or whatever the fuck they are.

Waterfox and Pale Moon are entirely dependent on Mozilla development efforts. What do they contribute back to the Firefox project in exchange for diluting Mozilla's userbase, recognition, and reputation?

Brave was created by a guy who was instrumental at Mozilla until he was fired from Mozilla for causing a minor political shitshow at a time when Mozilla is already under siege from a zeitgeist's bullshit, and done near immediately following his firing.

Why is it that one exMozilla guy can do better than Mozilla minus 1 at something Mozilla has been doing all these years?

Waterfox and Pale Moon should not be presented as alternatives to Firefox and should not be advertised in that fashion. They should be left as a niche thing for those that specifically go looking for them. Even then the amount of damage they do vs good they do is all dependent on just how prolific they are.

As for Brave, what is that beyond a giant shitshow? It's sad that so much time spent working on a project is meaningless in the face of one entirely legal personal act of a political nature done years prior. So much for democracy and tolerance and so on.

Tolerate the gays but don't tolerate one dude's choices on how to spend his own money.

We need to switch away from Firefox to downstream Firefox by different and unidentifiable names (wtf) or this entirely new upstart thing that is in no way as established as Mozilla (wtf). I'll admit it's an interesting concept, but what is it doing other than co-opting the system and placing itself as a middleman? It's almost Microsoft-esque in a way. Now, granted, the system is a giant fucking cesspool so there certainly is that, but when you already have an endeavor working towards user interests, and is run by a longstanding non-profit organization, is it really wise to go along with the circumstantially but unavoidably self-serving interests of this new privately-owned endeavor, despite the fact that it might have particular people associated with it, when its ability to supplant Mozilla's place and the influence it exerts on the ecosystem longterm, and ability to endure the increased pressure on it that will result from being in said position, is uncertain to a far greater degree than just its ability to supplant Mozilla?

I say nay.
Post edited August 14, 2017 by johnnygoging