Just T TIP?

Yep, that's all that'll fit.

Even if I'm all in for the Brexit, that's the only thing I would miss. Maybe I should buy all what's left on my Amazon UK wishlist before customs taxes are added :o)

Well they just released the leaked documents today. Now the goverments and negotiators are trying to downplay the issue or to smear the greenpeace documents that they aren't the real TTIP agreement and are just standpoints of US :)

We are already in deep shit when it comes to euro. As it seems now we are nearing the end of it. I mean its a few weeks ago that the eu central bank started to think about giving every euro citizen a certain amount of money (accounts go around 1300€) since the eurozone is in deflation which means job loss, less production and lower prices. The central bank is almost out of ideas now and helicopter money (what i described above) was the last idea (made by Milton Friedman in 1969). From my viewpoint if UK leaves Europe or not it doesn't matter. They only represent cca. 3% of EU GDP.

Edit: I was mistaken about UK share in GDP. The number above is wrong.

Eh? Helping drop the TTIP Bomb at EU and then brexiting?
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Kind of brilliant.

I have been hearing about this deal since the Trans-Pacific Partnership was being talked about. I know there was little detail to approach it with...

Is the "helicopter money" you describe related to Keynes' "digging holes" view on stimulating the econ? I did read about giving some minimum funds to needy families, but that is already going around (and being misapplied) here in Portugal for some years. I can relate to the principle, but not with its current implementation.

And if the UK represents so little of the EU's GDP, how did Cameron manage to strike a "special deal" with Brussels? It seems to me that the UK hold a lot of influence around here.

You seem like a very well informed person. I would like to read what else you have to say on this matter.

Your numbers are a bit suspect I'm afraid. The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world, if you consider that there are 28 eu member states, if the UK was contributing just 3%, that would make it the smallest contributor to GDP, below countries like Malta (assuming a roughly even distribution of the rest), which is clearly untrue.

There are some numbers on wikipedia from 2015: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_European_Union some basic arithmetic there puts the figure at 17.5%, recently I've heard numbers chucked around between 13% and 17%, it's somewhere in that ballpark.

Also, while Friedman first proposed the concept of helicopter money in 1969, this is the first time it's actually been properly tried by a developed economy.

You are correct about the GDP thing. I was mistaken. I googled around and it seems the share is bigger then what Slovene financial newspapers and TV were saying (aka 3%GDP share). Although there is no gdp share estimate available even at Eurostat. Eitherway EU represents only arround 45% of UK export market and is slowly declining. And since UK export share in GDP is only 30% which (2013 data) means export to EU would represent around 13-15% of your GDP which could be quite a hit.

Here something about helicopter money: http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/ecb-eurozone-bank.173e

As for GDP share of UK - I was wrong.

There you have come to the nub of the economics on the brexit argument, what would our trade look like out of the EU. I have views, and there are many arguments proposed by economics folk. However this isn't a thread on Brexit (I'm sure one will come up), so we should really get back to TTIP.

It is an interesting question. Assuming that the British electorate will indeed vote against membership, then the UK Government would still have to notify the European Council of the withdrawal, as a result of which the two-year ‘grace period’ will start. Nobody knows when that will happen, but some Tories have said that Cameron should resign and let someone take over who starts this process, so they might not delay it. Within that time the UK is still formally a Member State, so they could still participate in the negotiations and vote for TTIP. My guess is that the British representatives in Brussels will probably work overtime to get as much done as possible for as long as they have a say.

It's not unflattering, simply accurate. It was best summed up about 30 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE

No. Not exactly... More like an unveiling of the biggest villains out there, currently, whom besides every human alive, threaten the future of everyone and the environment, as well as future generations, too. But seriously, anyone who manages to eliminate "Monsanto", fully deserves the title "Saint"; by whatever means available, of course... And the likes of them. Survival, health, environment and future itself are VERY heavy words and concepts, for random corporate suits to forcibly cut off from everyone; for mere money, too...

Oh, I watched that series a couple of years ago. Excellent show! The Brits do have good TV, I'll grant you that.
It is a bit scary to recognize how little so many things changed. And how many situations make me recall scenes on the show.

I'm thinking of watching the British House of Cards one day.

The whole history and development of human society is centered around working together and grouping up into larger structures. Things like European union are just another step towards unity. And before anyone starts freaking out, no unity does not destroy local customs and culture as seen on the example of the most massive states like People's republic of China, USA or Russia. Hell even one village has different customs then the next one in UK or anywhere else in the world. So yeah, the idea of EU is good and it's in everyone's best interest to reform it to better efficiency rather than destroy it.
"ruling of themselves FOR THEMSELVES"? Yeah good luck with that. Especially with the countries heavily dependent on importing stuff stince they fucked up their agriculture by setting up ineffective solar plants and shit.
Do you want to see a european country ruling itself for itself anyway? Check out Ukraine.