Yo, the week has barely started and our Dutch neighbours of Greenpeace have released some work documents of the TTIP negociations between EU and USA. A website with downloadable pdf's has been set up so you can have a good read:

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/press/releases/2016/Greenpeace-Netherlands-releases-TTIP-documents/

http://www.ttip-leaks.org/

Time to learn Russian I guess ;)

I'm one step ahead already...sorta. xD

My tip is also leaking.

Hmm, another reason then that Brexit is actually to the BEST INTERESTS of British people, as well as other europeans, too... Should EU start falling apart, or countries forming it seek out a better ethnical composition and ruling of themselves FOR THEMSELVES thereoff, no american w@nk like this TTIP is likely to hit us all together, at least at the same time and magnitude...

The ONLY thing muslims got right, is that America is evil. Well, not the continent itself, really, just the world-bankers residing there, the corporations, the warmongering military... And Monsanto. And companies like it.

It seems gog ate my previous post in this thread :)

At this point only some Dutch/French/Irish referendum on TTIP confirmation can save us. The leaked documents show that fears of the opposition to the agreement was right. The agreement is much worse for us then it was expected at least that's what the newsmedia is reporting. As it seems now it will mean the end of Europe as we know it and is a direct attack on our laws and values. US and Germany also want the agreement to be signed ASAP. I wonder why ? Answer -> Trump presidency (anti trade deals)

Sooo... a call to all exteremists to aim some specific bigwigs instead of random woman, men & children to become popular instead of villified? I don't. ppl I did not vote for did. Same ppl ignoring the change.org votes on the topic AFAIK. *sigh*

I know that. Im talking about states and politicans. They couldn't care less about us. They get their money from their special interests, lobbiests and other bribe agencies out there.

I know you know (or at least was very sure). :) Just had the urge to distance myself from the really shitty descission my gov makes in the name of their wallet, not the populations well being. :/

You know Russia is even more fucked, right? You Yurup libruls are no better than 'Murican wingnuts:
"America is too Communist, I'm moving to Canada!"
"Europe is too corrupt, I'm moving to Russia!"

Look at that guy's wedding train. What did he do, cured cancer? walked on Mars? founded a startup for stupid millennials to expose themselves on cam? Er, he memorized the Quran. That's all.

They never really ask the people when it comes to these wide sweeping globalist arrangements, it's always imposed on everyone from the powers that be, and usually with as much secrecy as possible (to the point where the majority of the people affected have never heard of it).

It is exactly the opposite. The UK Government and Parliament are actually among the biggest proponents of this treaty. The fact that the US is demanding some serious concessions from the EU, and that the negotiations are continuing regardless, just shows how much determination and power play is really going on. Do you think that an individual government will be able do the right thing? On the European side, this treaty ultimately needs 28 votes in favour, all of which are subject to government approval, ratification and potentially also several referenda. The EU Parliament and EU Council have not had a say yet either. Imagine if the situation were not a ‘friendly negotiation’ but a hostile coercion.

In fact a lot of out campaigners actually point at TTIP as the reason that we would not be at the back of the queue for trade deals if we left. One columnist suggested we would just take TTIP, cross out EU and replace it with UK, which isn't so surprising a stance given that the UK is more anti regulation than most of the EU.

It is strange that I do not hear much on the media about this.

I personally think that the UK government is too pro-USA to do much good on the EU. However, I to like the UK as part of the EU because I buy a lot of books in English on-line. But if they don't want to stay, I think that Europe would be better off without them and the influence of the USA. Look at the state of Europe after the US subprime mortgage crisis!