I know you didn't. It's just that most of the suggestions I'm being given when voicing my opinion on this seem to take it for granted that I don't have any other choice (wish of the majority versus lonely me and so on). That's not the case.

People who think it's perfectly ok to ask for Steam/GG/Desura/whatever games here just do it, and while doing so, subtly changes the forum and community. If I were to just keep away nothing would change, even insisting on only gifting GOG games doesn't really do anything to reverse the changes done by the former people. Hence, I either have to accept the changes as they slowly come around, or I have to be vocal about it.

I like gifting people (when I think they'll appreciate the gifts) as their happiness increases my happiness, so I've tried the latter. But it's not something I can do on my own, so if this is was the majority wants, then that's what it'll be. Presumably, the majority of gifters agree too.

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my fingers upon thee."

Or to put it another way, the original intention of the thread (and credit goes to RowdyRodimus for his original thread way back when) was for the gifting of games from the GOG catalogue.

Lately, people have been asking for Steam games too, which kind of contradicts the DRM-freeness we've all come to know and love, but who am I to oppose free speech?

While I do agree with Knee's point, I'm not going to make a big song and dance about it, but as a loyal supporter of GOG, I (and my various alter egos) only gift to people who have listed a GOG wishlist.

And while I'm here, might as well post [url=http://www.gogwiki.com/wiki/User:Nmillar]my wishlist[/url] again. And yes, I'm one of the greedy ones with a huge wishlist, but that's mainly because I'm aiming to own the entire GOG catalogue some day. :)

My top though is:

Sid Meier's Colonization
Resonance
Gemini Rue
Tomb Raider 1+2+3

As I see it, these are your options:

1. Accept it as a fact of life, and move on.

2.Ask that people use a separate thread for non-GOG games.

3. Hire a hacker to track down the addresses of people who post wishlists with non-GOG games, go to their homes and kill them and their families for despoiling GOG's Holy Inner Sanctum.

That's all I could come up with :)

I would REALLY REALLY REALLY AND ONE BIG REALLY like Portal.

Thanks in ADVANCE!!

I think i'm sort of the same way, except I also want to save money as i'm(sadly) not as well off as everyone else.
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I'm not trying to lord it over you or anything.....I was just trying to tell you(in as nice a way as possible.) that some things aren't worth getting that upset over & that you should try(if possible) to relax more.

Now get off my lawn.....but cut it first, as it getting rather shaggy looking. ;) (joking)
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That is your right.....I believe Licurg was just making a suggestion though.

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3. I don't need to hire anyone - I've tracked down people before. And I have .. friends .. in more than 50 countries.

2. I've tried that. Doesn't really help, does it?

1. Buh-bye.
Yet it's perfectly ok to get upset that one can't ask for Steam games here. That is what's implied anyway, with the majority thinking it's ok etc.

Sorry, but I don't agree that I should just shut up and accept everything. It'll probably not do any good, but perhaps I should start making annoying posts whenever someone mention Steam here - if it happens, it's ok, right? and if someone doesn't like it, they should chill out - or leave.

I mean, what do I got to lose? I highly doubt that GOG'll ban me for it, and I've backed up my games here anyway (it's not that big a deal to buy them again from another account either for that matter)

Translation: I don't like it when people tell me to just suck it up. I'm a bit irrational in that regard.

No one is getting upset over that, we're(or at least I am.) getting upset over your inability(seemingly) to mentally handle/deal with the fact that things are ok/not so bad the way things are and realize that you're making a mountain out of a molehill(With this and a few other issues.).

And it is "ok"....NMillar just said he doesn't like it but(from what I read) will allow it. And if he didn't we could always make another thread for non-GOG gifting.
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I never said you should accept how things are or see things my/someone else's way, just that I think you shouldn't let such minor(Relatively speaking.) things get to you and/or stress you out as much.
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I(personally) don't care if you complain about things on GOG.......just be prepared for what happens afterwards. You see, many here are(seemingly) ok with people asking for non-GOG games in this thread, but many(on GOG) aren't ok with people acting like trolls.
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Now you're just being rude(and acting a bit self entitled).

You bring your opinions to the table and tell people that you don't like how things are going(This bit is fine, imo....free speech and all that.), but when/if things don't go your way you get upset and keep complaining about it instead of just moving on.
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I dunno what to tell you then.

Great quote, btw.....I remember that bit from Pulp Fiction with this line, in particular.

"I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but they're definitely dirty. But, a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way."

It's not about me allowing or disallowing anything. Anyone can post whatever they want and there's nothing I or anyone else can do about it.

In the spirit of the thread, people should really stick to posting their GOG wishlists, but that's just one opinion. Some will agree, some will disagree and I'm not really bothered enough to get into a lengthy debate about it.

GOGs or GTFO. :D

If GOG banned people for annoying posts, I wouldn't be here right now. And keep in mind they only ban you from the forums. Your games are still ok :)

Is there a thread specifically for Steam gifting? If so, find it and direct people to it, because I'm pretty sure most people don't know about it.


Also... DRM is the whore of the world, and Steam is it's filthy little vagina.

My bad then - I thought the opposition I faced when saying that I didn't approve of it meant that (some) people kind of got upset at the thought of not being able to continue down that road.
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Minor to you, anyway. Not so minor to me. Obviously.
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I don't really care what happens - if I get into a shit-storm over this, then it's very clear to me that I don't belong here. In that case it's no longer a "big" deal to me - it's only a "big" deal to me if I'm to call this place "home".
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I'd say childish instead of rude, but yes. What I was trying to highlight was that the ever increasing amount of Steam-related stuff (to pick one thing) isn't because of a general consensus that this is where we as a community want to go, it is the result of people just taking that liberty and then most people just being ok with it. Starting a "trolling/bashing trend" is a lot harder to "defend" of course, but it's not that hard to get the majority on board with it - just look at the Steam forums. It's by far easier to get people to "lower" themselves. If the majority rules regardless, then there's not much of a difference.

Not sure what you mean by "self entitled", though. I'm part of this community even if at odds with it, hence I ought to be entitled to the same as everyone else, right? Even if you disagree with me? I've probably misinderstood you there, though.

As for letting the issue drop.. Name one thing that's been discussed on these forums where everyone have simply dropped it after things "not going their way". According to your reasoning, there shouldn't be any repeat discussions here at all. I'm curious as to why I'm not allowed to keep beating a dead horse when everyone else is.

I really don't care how goggers look at me. If I did I'd try getting brown points instead of speaking my mind. Are you replying to me in a fashion designed to make other goggers look at you as favourable as possible, or are you speaking your mind back at me?
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You don't have to tell me anything, really. You may not mean it that way, but it sounds like you're speaking on behalf of the "GOG community". While I'm (generally speaking) interested in hearing your (and others) opinions on this matter, it's not like I'm viewing you as an authority on the subject and intend to just go with whatever you say. Sorry if that comes out a bit rude, but there really isn't any difference between you and me here - we're both equally small parts of this community.
I thought "the thread that doesn't exist" (or whatever) aka "Steamgifts.com - GOG Gifting Club V2" was dedicated to exactly that. It seems to require invitation or something, though - don't know as I've never bothered with it.

The philosophical debates going on above are far beyond the powers of my limited intellect, due to playing all these games... Would you care to help me out by giving me some more to play, so I can see how bad they are for me and fix my ways before I am a ruined soul? ;D

Neverwinter Nights

Thanks in advance if anybody chooses to aid me on my quest for self betterment!

If that ever happened we'd just make a Steam gifting thread, so I don't think many were upset in that manner as a result of your posts here. :)
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Minor as in minor in the grand scheme of things.....not minor as in unimportant to anyone/etc. ;)
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You should care, though......you obviously like some things here and at least some of the people here, so why not try to maintain your "tenure" here if only to stay close to those things? (I also think you're pretty fun to have around sometimes, btw, and don't want to see you go.)

In the end it's your call if those things are worth it or not(Worth it enough to leave your issues at the forum door/stay on at the forums in general, I mean.), though.
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But isn't that how trends happen/stuff changes&evolves on a forum? One person or a few people go in one direction and the rest either accept it and encourage it's growth/acceptance on the forum in question or they do their best to oppose it and get it removed from the forum altogether or diminish it's presence there(if possible). Forums aren't organized democracies......we all don't vote on every decision at every moment of every day.

Imagine if that was the case...it'd probably take forever to get things done or make any sort of change, and we'd have people on both sides arguing/debating(Maybe civil, maybe not.) back and forth all day long. I don't know if that'd be more good or bad than how things work now.
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Self entitled as in you(in some of your posts here) seemed to be speaking as if your opinions/wants/needs for how things on the forums should work should carry more weight than others for some reason.

(Btw i'm not saying that I know that was how you felt......it just seemed that way to me when I read some of what you wrote.)
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I never said you weren't allowed to do anything here(At least I don't think I did.)......I merely gave advice. That's all.
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The latter....I often speak my mind here, and sometimes it comes off to some as if i'm trying to troll someone or make myself look better than others. I promise you that this isn't the case in this instance, though.

(Also kudos for being willing to speak your mind despite what others think....I often do this as well and respect those that hold this ideal.)
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I wasn't trying to speak on GOG's behalf(Or the behalf of the community.) I also wasn't trying to force you to do anything you didn't/don't want to do. I was merely trying to give my take on the matter and give you some advice, is all.

Also no, you don't have to take my advice or the advice of anyone here....it might help you in the long run(Here, in life, etc.) if you were more open to taking other people's suggestions instead of pushing them aside so quickly, though.
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That thread is for Steam contests, not gifting non-GOG games to people directly.

Wishlist:

Rise of the Triad: Dark War
Duke Nukem 3D: Atomic Editon
Crusader: No Remorse
King's Quest 1+2+3
Space Quest 1+2+3

My 18th birthday is coming up in a week. PM me if able and thanks in advance