We had several lockdowns...they didn't work(even the strictest ones)....heck, the CDC and WHO are both now advising against them, as they do more harm(financial problems like lost jobs and shuttered businesses, depression, etc) than good & for more people than the lockdowns potentially protect or save.

And even if they worked better, imo it's worse to lock down and toss the world into a global economic depression for many years.

That said, a hard lockdown might have been the ticket for the world on "day one"..sadly, they didn't take it seriously enough back then.

Lockdowns are the measure of last resort.

Unfortunately, the situation is bad enough here that last resort measures are needed.

Also, lockdown worked for Wuhan, China, which I believe is no longer threatened by COVID-19.

Imo a handful(relatively speaking) of cases isn't reason enough for a lockdown...especially when the lockdowns have been doing much worse things(to the economy, which people need to live, and other areas as well) in many cases.

Also look at several states that didn't lock down ever: they are doing pretty well all things considered....no bodies filling every hospital or piling up in the streets and etc, as you'd expect in non-locked down states if lockdowns worked.

Whereas in strict lockdown areas the case levels have(on average) gone UP....even with such measures in place.

What the CDC and WHO are recommending now, is: distancing, santization(hand washing, etc), and other similar measures. Those have been shown to actually do a good amount of good against the illness.

In the end, though, I believe we cannot make the cure worse than the illness......and i'd rather we didn't go into another great depression, as during the last one MANY MILLIONS suffered and passed.

(Btw: in some states currently, people are lining up in large lines for food.....cuz they're starving, due to having lost work and their businesses. And that was just from the first set of lockdowns)

More like they likely just stopped testing people. From what i've read(leaked info from the region) it was eventually just as bad after they lifted their very strict lockdowns as before it.

Lockdowns don't work, at all. Calling them a last resort is akin to the last resort technique that people have where they try to blink to make something go away. The only thing that had a chance of working was turning planes back from china when it was obvious form the face of it that viruses that infect lung tissue are contagious. Why we kept the border open under the guise of anti-racist virtue signalling is beyond me. It's like the people advocating for it were like "eh, it's not me, i have my mansion to hide in." Not allowed to lock people out of a country for a month or two, because of the economy, but locking people in their homes economy be damned is totally fine, even if it's ineffective. Yeah, imagine that. An area of china where almost every single person gets infected with a virus develops herd immunity. Who would have thought? How's that working for the rest of china?

Many wealthy have been caught not following the very regulations they wanted other(usually poorer) people to follow...so many times so, that it's become a common thing to meme.

Also in one area a woman cannot open her OUTDOOR dining, yet 50 feet away Hollywood film makers were allowed to setup a very similar setup.....somehow it's safe at the woman's outdoor dining, but 50 feet away it's not? Please, don't make me out to be a fool.

Well we'd likely know if the chinese hadn't stopped most(if not all) testing.

Confirmation bias. See, the hollywood filmmakers want their party, so it's safe for them, 'cause, i guess SARS-CoV-2 understands the importance of these people in hollywood. Even a virus can recognize their authority and know it's place. I don't know. I haven't been keeping up with china, but i think we all know that if china couldn't keep it in wuhan to begin with, and it spread all over the world, then it's still all over the damn country. And china's guilty as hell for this: they knew about it, kept it quiet, and intentionally covered their rears. This is what happened with the Spanish Flu, and SARS-CoV(-1) which the world still blames China for, and rightfully so. But this sophistry of everyone doing their best to stop SARS-CoV-2 is a joke. This isn't the first time China broke the treaties.

Reminds me of how we can eat without a mask, but when we stand we must wear a mask(in restaurants). Or the curfews, where people needed to be indoors(or at least not in stores) after a certain hour.

I guess the virus isn't as deadly when sitting and eating, or before a certain time of day. /sarcasm

That's where i can actually respect some of the lockdown stuff. In theory it works, and you can see those people apply it consistently, but the downside is that the virus always spreads the most through things unaffected by the lockdowns: holiday gatherings, family gatherings, shopping, service jobs, doing laundary, etc.

What would work is complete and total martial law, which, ironically, the people are villainizing certain Trump supporters for calling for, thus taking it off the table. Fact is, it's spreading faster through families, nursing homes, hospitals, correctional facilities, dialysis centers, walmart, parades, protests, etc than any of the places actually affected by a lockdown. The cold truth is, it's more of a display of power while virtue siginalling than it is effective. The one thing that would work at this point is the thing that's totally off the table, and for good reason. We should be in the mode of holding those people behind it and the spread resonsible: the people who let it into the country, the people too selfish to wear a mask, the companies like Walmart that made masks unavailable when it first came out, the companies stockpiling n95s, people refusing to quarantine after exposure, the CCP, and, most importantly, the governments who gave the stuff to China to make the damn thing.

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I don't know what your proof exactly is that lockdowns don't work, or that the WHO said any such thing.

If it's' 'Oh look people are still dying!', then that's kinda silly because deaths are still prevented by lockdowns. If it's 'economy is more important than lives!' then that's also misguided as imagine the impact on the economy with more deaths.

Also, people should be clearer about what constitutes a lockdown and what is being discussed. Distancing, businesses where people gather restricting opening hours, travel restrictions, school closures - these are all part of a lockdown yet some are more effective than others and you can still talk about a lockdown even if you don't implement 100% all those things and more.

Being in a third world country, it is a catch-22 situation. I have had the full 2020 experience.

I got infected somewhere in June and had no symptoms then except persistent conjunctivitis and brain fog. Was placed under home quarantine. I quit my job towards the end of August and have been unemployed since then.

I have some savings and haven't met my girl for nearly a year now! These things may seem trivial but its driving me nuts.

In my country, there are no unemployment benefits or aid offered of any sort. So, you either get infected and wind up in in the hospital or you die of starvation if you are poor.

I have been grappling with mind-numbing depression and anxiety for the past few months. Suicide cases have seen a spike and the deaths are being under-reported.

That's horrific dude! I hope things look brighter for you in 2021.

That is too bad to hear! Also I hear that alcohol sales are increasing around the world.

Did you get rid of the mind fog already? or it still persists?

May things improve for your, fellow GOGer!

I hope so too. I have learnt to cherish the small things.
Thank you. Personally, alcohol helps to a degree. The brain fog is now gone. Physically, I am fine. Just that there is way too much uncertainty.

Uncertainty in finding a new job or what exactly? Depending on how you frame it, it might be easier to get a new job when you're explaining why you left a company. A corporate owned business is going to want to hear that you had the best interest of the shareholders in mind (for example, you left because you were afraid that when you couldn't think straight that it could negatively affect your performance in a way that could've hurt sales?). For something not owned by a corporation, it varies alot.

Also, how's the woman? Is there any hope of seeing her anytime soon?

Lockdown seems to work here, that said only for slowing down the spread of virus. Mental and economic welfare not included. Luckily for me, as an introvert, my life under quarantine isn't any different than before.
Sources?