tinyE: Are you seriously arguing with him!? XD
I thought you better than that!
SHAME ON YOU! :P
Some people, unlike your punk-nazi, neo-fascistic, sisterhood-caliphate liberal-ass, actually are Democrats and not in name only... I expressed my opinion, that man voiced an argument, i have an obligation to see that this fine man right there expresses it and i to inspect it. Unlike you, i don't beat up the people i disagree with, or break their cars, or break shops with hammers, or set fires, while carrying rainbow flags!
Shame on you who wants to turn democracy into a dictatorship or something!
timppu: Ok, so apparently you think that "EU" (other EU countries? EU commission? ECB?) is somehow forcing Greece to be in the euro zone, to use euro as its currency?
Nope, not at all. "EU" can't tell any euro country to remain, nor exit (*), euro. It is all up to you Greeks whether you want to use euro as your currency. So far your leaders (Syriza) have wanted to remain in euro, for a reason or another. If the reports are to be believed, your former finance minister (Valoudaskiskitkatkiss or something) was preparing in secrecy a plan B to take your own currency into use, but your prime minister apparently rejected the idea. That's also probably the reason the finance minister was swapped.
So it is up to you people. I for one would be all for Greece to exit euro, I was already hoping that back when Syriza won the elections years ago, as that is what Syriza seemed to be promising, exiting EU/euro. But nope, they didn't fulfill that promise. I'm also wishing Finland would have never entered euro either, just like Sweden didn't. Then we wouldn't have participated in the Greek bailouts either.
(*) About forcing a country to exit the euro zone, I think there are things ECB could do to make it hard for a country to remain in euro... but AFAIK they can't directly tell anyone to exit it.
You are right at most points and i actually was a little bit too hasty, sentimental and unjust. Truth be said, the money loaned to us are being thrown in a black hole in vain and most of them, is being leeched by professional crooks. We couldn't enter Euro currency, but the vermin ruling us at the time, "cooked" statistics, made us enter by deceiving you all and without giving us any choice or say on the matter, or hold a referendum or something like that (not that recently when we did a referendum, anything changed, those leftist bastards turned NO into YES, anyway)... Same trash and associates, even robbed half the country dry, through a huge stock-market scandal, during his time being in power, back then (when we entered Euro currency). But the Union itself is bad for us, too. One of the main reasons, is the obligatory vermin-gration policies (that right now threaten to undo us completely, we are swarmed) and certain obligations to trade (to import certain goods we already have, while being made to export ours, preventing self-sufficiency), or restrictions (especially in industry, or agriculture).
Sorry for my former hostile tone. I actually pity European taxpayers, who loan to us all those money, so corrupt parasites (mostly public servants, the cancer that socialists in 80s created and only now is becoming terminal for good) can live like kings and bitch-queens. Finally, as i said before, there are economists writing entire analysis, on the field "how bad imported currency is for foreign economies" (carrying the risk to undo its market entirely and throughout inspection of why and how, national currency is always better, or at least double currency, to total conversion. And certainly, which is also quite common knowledge, how poor or growing economies, can't sustain a strong, hard currency (exactly like Euro). Some go so far as to claim, Euro came as a trojan horse to plunder profit away, to its place of origin. The fact that i lived in previous eras and have a comparison, actually, make me agree to that. First day in Euro, EVERYTHING had exactly TRIPLE the cost, compared against even the previous day's costs, in local currencies. The rest, everybody knows (about crisis and whatever else).
