DadJoke007: The economic chaos that could follow a complete shutdown nationally or globally might as well claim lives. I'm more concerned about the potentially devastating economical effects of covid-19 than the illness itself.
Eh, I worry about that somewhat...though I worry a bit more about how many will be around afterwards to have to deal with said financial impacts.
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morolf: 3-4% isn't really low, if I understand correctly it's actually higher than the Spanish flu in 1918 (though that also killed lots of young people as well).
By low I meant lower than supposed rates(of around 15% or so) that some had touted online.
Of course, it DOES affect that many if one takes into account all those who get seriously ill/need hospital stays due to getting it(the worst cases that don't die but need intensive care/etc).
morolf: But yes, it's stunningly irresponsible. Germany has been getting increasingly dysfunctional imo for the last few years, this is a new low.
If that ultra PC crap kills off a bunch of people I hope the ones who pushed it(who are in positions of power to do so/in how they handled corona screening/prevention) all get canned/fired/etc.
morolf: Some economic impact is inevitable, but imo it will be much worse, if you just let it run wild and don't do anything to contain it, because it will overburden the health care system (one has to remember: there is no vaccine against it to protect health care personnel, so there's a significant risk of hospital staff getting sick as well). This will also mean lots of people will die of other diseases or at least not get proper treatment due to lack of resources, and it will also mean many people will miss work to keep themselves safe and not risk being dependent on a health care system that isn't working anymore.
This thing isn't the plague, but it's still extremely serious, unless one takes a proactive approach.
Agreed....they need to be proactive and make some major efforts to contain this, and not just let it run rampant/not give a damn.
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My own addition to the thread: This bit bothered me especially: "As things stand, Deere has the technical ability to remotely shut down a farmer’s machine anytime—if, say, the farmer missed a lease payment or tuned a tractor’s software to goose its horsepower, a common hack widely available through gray-market providers. A Deere spokesman says many manufacturers can remotely control vehicles they sell, but Deere has never activated this capability, except in construction equipment in China, where financing terms require it to."
So they can shut your stuff down if you miss a payment(making it harder to make said payments) and even remote start/run your equipment(though they claim they'd "never do such a thing")......very unsettling. :\