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Posted August 29, 2017
Make your collection even more legendary.

The GWENT Starter Pack is now available on GOG.com.
This is a limited, one-time only offer and a great way to reinforce your card collection with additional units, spells, and heroes, including a guaranteed Legendary card! Whether you’re new to The Witcher Card Game or a seasoned player, you’ll get a total of 51 cards of various rarity, plus crafting resources for creating premium animated versions of cards.

Once you purchase the GWENT Starter Pack, the items included in it will automatically be added to your account and become available the next time you log in to GWENT.
Post edited August 29, 2017 by litek
Posted August 30, 2017
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Dgaart: ...Yet there are some genres, like MMORPG's, where...
And these products don't belong on or fit in the GOG.com store.
Posted August 30, 2017
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CharlesGrey: "This is a limited, one-time only offer... "

Ah, yes, the limited supply of virtual items... Don't let this fantastic deal pass you by, folks!

... meh.
Limited means one Starter Pack per customer.
Posted August 30, 2017
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PaterAlf: Gremlins Inc. (the DLCs except for the soundtrack and the artbook).
It's not a game, as the game as a single player part that is playable offline and DRM-free, it's only a DLC for the multiplayer part of a game.

Gwent Beta is the only always online game available on Gog.
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mqstout: No, they shouldn't. It should allow LAN play or direct IP, and not just Galaxy. DRM-free isn't ONLY "different single player game bundled with it".
Except it is, Gog DRM-free promise only ever was for the single player part of games not for the multiplayer; we had, for years, multiple games requiring online-activation, third party accounts, etc... for multiplayer.
Post edited August 30, 2017 by Gersen
Posted August 30, 2017
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Gersen: Except it is, Gog DRM-free promise only ever was for the single player part of games not for the multiplayer
This particular product isn't even a game, it's an online service.
Posted August 30, 2017
I think I lost a little faith in this community,and here there are people foaming at the mouths for cuphead that's about to be DRM free on GOG.What in the fuck is with this community sometimes.I fear for some of you guys mental stability.Some of you guys do come off as whiny and entitled,and for some reason you guys think GoG is going to stop being DRM free, what in the fuck?


It's a motherfucking card game,chill out and get over it,and I rather give my money to company who I know damn well are going to make quality games with it.I don't want to see GoG die because is not enough income coming in,we already got Valve who gives no fucks and never listens to community about their upcoming games.Gog has to make money,and sometimes you guys take this shit personal like GoG is your best friend or something.They are a business[i][/i]Not your damn drinking buddy.

They are waaaay better then valve with this,you should see the hate for the new Dota2 card game,and that is hate well deserved.

Also it's their store,why would they not post a game they made on their store? Games like Absolver and GWENT are really supposed to be played with other people,ONLINE,but yeah nothing is going to stay the same forever in this market,but I do believe they will stick with being DRM free.Also start panicking when Cyberpunk 2077 is online only or something please.This is nothing,it's card game that sells packs,chill out.
Posted August 30, 2017
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mqstout: And these products don't belong on or fit in the GOG.com store.
Since when did mqstout apply for a job a GOG and became the gatekeeper for what GOG is and isn't suppose to sell. IF this game wasn't meant to be here then it would fail, but that is not happening so it has a place here.

If I told you 10 years ago that I only sell apples & I tell you now that I sell apples and oranges... am I suppose to not sell oranges because I told you 10 years ago my store was an apple store that only sold you apples?

This is how redicouls that mind set sounds... you adapt with the times or you die.
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Posted August 30, 2017
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If you had developed your business entirely for apples, always advertised "I only sell apples!" and cultivated a customer base of people who allergic to the presence of oranges? When your advertisements always said oranges are terrible and your customers agreed? Only then does your metaphor start to make sense.
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mqstout: If you had developed your business entirely for apples, always advertised "I only sell apples!" and cultivated a customer base of people who allergic to the presence of oranges? When your advertisements always said oranges are terrible and your customers agreed? Only then does your metaphor start to make sense.
Then please show me were GOG said microtransactions are terrible or that they would never sell games with them?
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Please go on. Those mentioned titles we have on GOG which are pretty good games, no question about that, are games which belong to two categories:

1. Everybody who wants the game and does not care about DRM has it already bought years ago
2. DRM Free enthusiasts did not have bought them

Do we have Total Warhammer 2 coming here? Do we have the new Resident Evil titles coming here? Warhammer 40k, the new rts? X-Com 2? Rocket League? Arma 3? Grand Theft Auto 5? Fallout 4? Civilization 5? Stellaris?

Basically those titles we have, are titles for which the publisher wanted to get some more sales after years of stagnation.

And now do not mentioned Witcher 3 as an argument.

I even think, the games might be here without having Galaxy, you can also implement automated patching access for devs on a website, you do not need a client for that.
Post edited August 30, 2017 by MaGo72
Posted August 30, 2017
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Microtransactions cannot exist without DRM. I'll leave it as an exercise to you to find evidence that GOG was ever anything but anti-DRM.
Posted August 30, 2017
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MaGo72: 1. Everybody who wants the game has it already bought years ago
Not always. I tend to buy games years after release.... and so do many other people. Also in the case of say Fallout 3, GOG had the better version many people rebought due to that reason alone (me included). I've bought Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Oblivion probably 4 or 5 times now counting PC releases and console releases.

Plus it's easier to mod without Steam...

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MaGo72: Basically those titles we have, are titles for which the publisher wanted to get some more sales after years of stagnation.
That very well could be true... but there was a pretty signifcant uptake in these types of releases after these changes than before these changes. A lot of these games were thought to never come to GOG. Now every few months we are getting slightly older AAA games that a few years ago we hardly ever got any.

Not to mention GOG has publically stated that these changes are a big reason many of these games are now here. So you are either willing to trust GOG on that or your not, but I'd put money that their is a lot of turth to that statement.

Developers like the Steam ecosystem of how Steam treats devs, they have said this time and time again and GOG could not compete with it before Galaxy.
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mqstout: Microtransactions cannot exist without DRM.
And this is where your wrong. Hence why your agument is wrong. There are many different "types" of microtransactions and they don't all need DRM to function.
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The made arguments nevertheless do not invalidate the points I made. DRM Free is an incentive to buy as I mentioned and gives a new sales kick for a old game.

And I am not sure it was worth dropping all the pillars except the "DRM Free" one, which is also crumbling bit by bit.

But you might be right, to get bigger, get more market share, online and third party client is the way to go. It is a walk on a blade for GOG, to be just different enough from Steam to exist and grow. Although a microtransaction game is a new low.
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Posted August 30, 2017
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tfishell: [snip]well reasoned and respectful surmising
Gotta admit, my emotional attachment to this place is probably not at a healthy level. You hit every nail on the head. Just got my Kickstarter key for Sunless Skies in-dev, and of course it was for GOG because I filled out the backer survey months ago, and I have quite a few other games I've kickstarted and had asked to be redeemed on GOG. I think I'll rexamine my level of commitment to things that aren't friends and family. See ya around.

Hope GOG eventually gets more Humongous games here, since my 4 year old autistic son loves Pajama Sam (Ron Gilbert is a genius) and I want to show him PuttPutt as well. Thanks for pushing GOG to get those.
Post edited August 30, 2017 by vulchor
Posted August 30, 2017
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BKGaming: Yes it is. Only difference is the online items drops don't happen in the offline version for obvious reasons. The DLC was designed for the mutliplayer aspect not single player therefor they were never intended to be used in the single player offline version.
Come one, most of the DLCs are new skins and character portraits (and also new music). And it would have been impossible to make an offline version for that stuff? And no, when I can't get alternative music and character portraits, it's not the same experience with both versions.

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BKGaming: Really? Have you seen the increase in AAA games that last few years? I never said brand new AAA but just off the top of my head...

Obivion
Fallout 3
Fallout New Vegas
Saints Row 4
Saints Row 3
Darksiders
Darksiders 2

Need I go on? Most of these games released after Galaxy and afer many of the sites changes people complain about and GOG has stated many times these changes made getting these type of games easier.
So we are talking about old AAA games that everybody who is willing to use Steam already got dirt cheap in bundles years ago? And which are probably only here because their publishers already squeezed out every penny they could get everywhere else (Saints Row IV andGat out of Hell are the only exception from your list) ? That's really great. Let's talk again when we get recent AAA games (or at least some that are just one or two years old).

And if we are talking about that kind of stuff, GOG always had "AAA" titles. Many of their oldies were very high-profile games when they were released (even if people didn't call it AAA back then).
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PaterAlf: Come one, most of the DLCs are new skins and character portraits (and also new music). And it would have been impossible to make an offline version for that stuff? And no, when I can't get alternative music and character portraits, it's not the same experience with both versions.
You are arguing that the experience should be the same... but that is irrelvant to the DRM aspect of this conversation.

The content is also irrelivant really... they made it for the online version. Which is the developers choice. If they did not intend for the single player offline experience to get it then you are not missing anything because it was never meant to be used in that version.

It's like designing a certain feature for multiplayer that could have been used in singleplayer then complaining when the single player doesn't get that feature. It was never meant to be used in single player.

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PaterAlf: So we are talking about old AAA games that everybody who is willing to use Steam already got dirt cheap in bundles years ago? And which are probably only here because their publishers already squeezed out every penny they could get everywhere else (Saints Row IV andGat out of Hell are the only exception from your list) ? That's really great. Let's talk again when we get recent AAA games (or at least some that are just one or two years old).

And if we are talking about that kind of stuff, GOG always had "AAA" titles. Many of their oldies were very high-profile games when they were released (even if people didn't call it AAA back then).
I was talking about slightly older AAA games and their increase of releasing on GOG which is true after these changes. It's not just AAA games either.

Look how games are now skipping a Linux release because of Galaxy not being on Linux. Now realize how many of those games would have skipped GOG entirley without Galaxy. This was happening which means, even if you hate Galaxy, you would not have gotten a standalone installer offline version without Galaxy being here.
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