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Posted July 06, 2017
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Thanks for bearing with us in this thread. We’d like to announce that today we’ve introduced the addition of new installers, with implemented GOG Galaxy client.

Like Destro described it back in May, we decided to separate the „new" and „classic” installers, for your choice. So if you don’t care about the features like achievements or cloud-saves and don’t want to use GOG Galaxy, you can download the „Classic Game Installer", just like it was handled before. For games that have new installers, the default download view on „My account” will show the "GOG Galaxy Game Installers" - you will notice that, as it is visibly described in „My account” game view. To download the „classic” ones, just go to „Options" and choose „Classic Installers”.

The new GOG Galaxy Game Installers were added to +100 games - a selection of all games that make use of GOG Galaxy features. I'll post the current list of games with the new installers in a separate post.
Going forward, all new games that will use GOG Galaxy features, will now receive both GOG Galaxy Game Installer and Classic Game Installer.

Introduction of GOG Galaxy Game Installers doesn’t change anything in terms of keeping the Classic Game Installers up to date. As soon as we receive an update for any game, we will prepare an updated version of the classic installer, just like it was done in the past.

Edit: Pinned.
Post edited July 06, 2017 by fables22
Posted May 09, 2017
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Nope. I'm uninstalling Galaxy on the one computer I had it on.

I don't suppose somebody could write a script to automatically work with the GOG installers to auto-uncheck the "Galaxy" option?
Post edited May 09, 2017 by tfishell
Posted May 09, 2017
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I'm going back to bed.
Posted May 09, 2017
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Wishbone: That wouldn't even help. The whole point of the offline DRM free installers is that you can download an installer now, and use it to install the game anywhere, anytime.

For instance, think about what happens if someone downloads an installer on Saturday (after this change has taken effect) and either never gets around to installing it or installs it, completes the game, and then uninstalls it again. Now fast forward two years. Said user now feels like playing the game again (or for the first time, if they never got around to it originally). They think "ah, I already have the installer that I downloaded back then, I'll just install it from that". What happens to their current Galaxy installation?

GOG will surely have their work cut out for them keeping the installers available for download up-to-date, but they can't do anything about the installers people have already downloaded.
I actually didn't think that far when I wrote my post but you're right - actually makes the whole thing even more ridiculous....
Posted May 09, 2017
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amok: Even I agree with this.... and I tend to disagree with everyone on principle...
You and me both brother...
Posted May 09, 2017
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The client download is currently 150 MB. I have 1600 games in my library, not counting DLCs. 240 GB is half my hard drive.

Holy fuck, GOG staff, has anyone of you been on a torrent site recently? Do you know that quality repacks are actually prized by users? Any idiot can rip all 25GB of a blu-ray, but it takes skill to compress it fivefold so it's still good.

People buy games because it's cheaper. No need to waste (wo)man-hours figuring out which is the superior version of a product, and no need to worry about malware.

Yeah, it's a splendid idea to create demand for degalaxified versions.

I can't even. I feel so stupid.

Someone link that python script, please.
Post edited May 10, 2017 by fables22
Posted May 09, 2017
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Seriously? GOG, are you being serious right now?

This is a monumentally stupid idea from people with no respect for the community they have built up. This is a direct, insulting, passive-aggressive pushing of unwanted stuff in our faces and It's pretty bloody clear from this thread that I am not alone in being livid about it. It also has me doubting your future integrity more than any point in time.

Your site has been turning to crap lately, and instead of wasting time on asinine ideas like this, how about putting some actual effort in to courting non-indies? Or actually getting some competent, unbiased curators? You know, to improve the actually necessary part of the site? Wake up and actually listen to the people instead of blundering forward with your blinkers on for once.
Post edited May 09, 2017 by ReynardFox
Posted May 09, 2017
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BKGaming: On the contrary, I think a lot of people like rep... they just don't like that it can be easily abused so they would rather just not have it. :P
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zeogold: I suppose that's fair, but my point unfortunately still stands. I think they're going to need to see a backlash in sales rather than from just the forum before they do anything.

Calling it now, I predict that GOG is going to keep it, just make the box unticked by default.

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Y'know, that brings up another point:
What's the benefit in forcing more people to use Galaxy? Assuming this bit of skullduggery succeeds somehow, how does GOG profit? Is this some sort of Machiavellian gimmick whereby they get more publishers to sign on because Galaxy is "popular" or something...?

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And while I'm here, I may as well make another quick quip:
This thread should probably be renamed to "Offline installers with an option to NOT install GOG Galaxy".
Re: Benefit of Forcing
I guess the idea is that every "Average Joe" knows about Galaxy as well as how you can have Cloud Saves, so that they aren't like "Muh Steam is masterrace, GOG has no online saves therefore it sux", well I think you get what I mean regarding that(of course that quote was not meant seriously :P)
I do find it a bad move to shove Galaxy down everyone's throat, show and advertise it, or ask in the setup "do you want to DL Galaxy" but add a option to say that you never want to see the Galaxy ads in the setup or on your Library ever again.
Posted May 09, 2017
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This is ridiculous. It's so absurd I can't even process it.

The point has been made on this thread, several times, so I won't repeat it. I will just add my voice to those who want their offline game installers to remain plain and simple offline installers. Downloading those installers is hard enough, anyone who manages to get that done can also download Galaxy if they want it.

If you want me using galaxy, make the universal cloud saves universal working with all games and not just a dozen. I would probably use galaxy then. But if that's all I wanted, I would buy on Steam. I buy GOG because I want those installers, if you put bloatware on those installers, I have no real reason to buy here anymore.

I see now I did repeat myself after all. Oh well. Since I'm already there, might as well add that I don't expect you guys to back down on this. I can't tell how stupid this really is or how deep your "consideration" was when making this move. It might actually be a great way to grow your business or have some other really good reasons you can't disclose. All I can say is that the reasons you told us on this thread are bullshit and that I, personally, absolutely dislike this.
Post edited May 10, 2017 by fables22
Posted May 09, 2017
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tfishell: Nope. I'm uninstalling Galaxy on the one computer I had it on.

I don't suppose somebody could write a script to automatically work with the GOG installers to auto-uncheck the "Galaxy" option?
As I said earlier, they could easily just put the setting in the registry, just like default install folder. The question is, do they want to.
Posted May 09, 2017
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BKGaming: I think the lack of an opt-in is the bigger issue here, Galaxy is around 100 -150 MB and with compression may even end up being a lot smaller in the installer. In the grand scheme of things it's not a lot of data.
Might not be a lot of data for a single installer. But I have nearly 1100 games on GOG. If they pack Galaxy with every single installer (+DLCs), I'll end up with at least 50 - 100 GB of useless bloatware.

Edit: Sorry, I just saw somebody already brought that up.
Post edited May 09, 2017 by PaterAlf
Posted May 09, 2017
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BKGaming: I think the lack of an opt-in is the bigger issue here, Galaxy is around 100 -150 MB and with compression may even end up being a lot smaller in the installer. In the grand scheme of things it's not a lot of data.
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PaterAlf: Might not be a lot of data for a single installer. But I have nearly 1100 games on GOG. If they pack Galaxy with every single installer (+DLCs), I'll end up with at least 50 - 100 GB of useless bloatware.
Yes I guess I need to clarify that post... I keep getting quoted... but I agree with you and have said so in follow up post. :P
Posted May 09, 2017
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I'm surprised nobody seems to have created a specific wish dealing with this yet ("keep Galaxy optional" doesn't really cover it), so I did. Pass the link around. :)
Posted May 09, 2017
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BKGaming: Many pirates admit they pirated because of broken games, to demo, because of DRM, and because before Steam the process was more complicated. One Steam simplified that and offered additional value outside of just the actual game, many pirates also admitted they now purchase more games. Call it what you will though...
I already understood what you meant. I simply question why you consider it a relevant argument to present to GOG's legitimate users.

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Lemon_Curry: By the way, please enlighten me as to how a pirate downloading GOG's game installers may be unfamiliar with GOG itself.
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BKGaming: Google for pirated game... get offered GOG copy instead of a Steam copy...download... profit? Just because it says GOG on it doesn't mean people understand what that means, what matters is if it works.
If they don't care about the logo and minor advertising as long as the game works, then I don't see how including an installer for a client (that requires an account) would make them care any more.

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BKGaming: EDIT: It also doesn't cater to pirates, these things are locked behind your account which must own the game.
You're right but what's the point then? Surely, those sharing the installers online would get rid of the bundled Galaxy installer beforehand so their fellow pirates wouldn't be bothered by it.

#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:225#Q&_^Q&Q#
Voted, cheers.
Post edited May 09, 2017 by Lemon_Curry
Posted May 09, 2017
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Isn't it nice to see all the many factions agree for once in this shitstorm?
Even amok and BKGaming ffs!
Posted May 09, 2017
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HunchBluntley: I'm surprised nobody seems to have created a specific wish dealing with this yet ("keep Galaxy optional" doesn't really cover it), so I did. Pass the link around. :)
Brilliant!

There's also a wish list item from another user for a checkbox for redistributables in the offline installers. I'm not allowed to post urls but if that could also get support that would be awesome
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