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Posted July 06, 2017
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Thanks for bearing with us in this thread. We’d like to announce that today we’ve introduced the addition of new installers, with implemented GOG Galaxy client.

Like Destro described it back in May, we decided to separate the „new" and „classic” installers, for your choice. So if you don’t care about the features like achievements or cloud-saves and don’t want to use GOG Galaxy, you can download the „Classic Game Installer", just like it was handled before. For games that have new installers, the default download view on „My account” will show the "GOG Galaxy Game Installers" - you will notice that, as it is visibly described in „My account” game view. To download the „classic” ones, just go to „Options" and choose „Classic Installers”.

The new GOG Galaxy Game Installers were added to +100 games - a selection of all games that make use of GOG Galaxy features. I'll post the current list of games with the new installers in a separate post.
Going forward, all new games that will use GOG Galaxy features, will now receive both GOG Galaxy Game Installer and Classic Game Installer.

Introduction of GOG Galaxy Game Installers doesn’t change anything in terms of keeping the Classic Game Installers up to date. As soon as we receive an update for any game, we will prepare an updated version of the classic installer, just like it was done in the past.

Edit: Pinned.
Post edited July 06, 2017 by fables22
Posted May 16, 2017
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Tauto: Give it a rest people,you can't stop it from happening.
What's better is that it gives GOG a window for opportunity to outsmart Steam in this. Install to all computers with Galaxy, install to just this computer with Galaxy, download backup and install to default directory, download extras...all by going to their side. And if they improve their API, they can even allow third-party tools like gogrepo.py or similar to do the same, especially on mobile, thus allowing apps to be built for that functionality. Honestly it's value added to Galaxy, unlike this backlash.
Posted May 16, 2017
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Should I thank you for giving a straight answer to my obvious rhetorical question?
Posted May 16, 2017
I wish a blue would jump in soon. I would really like to hear what they have to say.
Posted May 16, 2017
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ValamirCleaver: Should I thank you for giving a straight answer to my obvious rhetorical question?
Of course.
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Posted May 16, 2017
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real.geizterfahr: DRM is a decission of publishers too. Why should we blame GOG if they decide to go full DRM?
Because it's a choice of GOG to sell games under the conditions they're given or not. Of course, they could decline or subsequently remove all games whose devs/pubs don't offer GOG the same prices, goodies or updates. Do you want that? Should Humble or Steam do the same?

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V4V: Read my post again. I'm not talking about "Abondanware". I wrote The trust in GOG was gone when they started to call those "abandoned" games "special DRM-free editions". I was talking about stuff like "Armello DRM free Edition", where "DRM free Edition" basically meant "Discontinued and incomplete game version, because devs don't want to update the GOG version anymore".
Then I don't know what you're talking about. Care to elaborate and maybe give an example I can look up? (Armello seems to be a fictional example since it's not listed on GOG.)

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V4V: I bought The Witcher 3 here because I have The Witcher 1 and 2 on GOG. And I kinda trust CD Projekt not to screw themselves. What kleeps me here? What is it that make humans watch crime scenes or accidents? I don't know... I check the forums every few weeks and sometimes I drop a post.
Fair enough as long as you don't just come here to release an anger you should be over with long ago (or at least that's what I would suggest to you).

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V4V: I ran out of time trying to update my games. Especially now that there is no notification, how do I know if anything got updated. You want me to check all my games against a list, then open each game and verify that something may have changed?
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real.geizterfahr: https://www.gog.com/mix/games_that_treat_gog_customers_as_second_class_citizens
The above quote was not mine but paladin181's.

Nevertheless, I glanced over the list. Many if not most of the accusations there are also very probably not the fault of GOG, except for not removing the games when they didn't get the same support on GOG as somewhere else. Some of the descriptions even mention the devs' choice, e.g. Shadwen.
Posted May 16, 2017
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Jemolk: what makes me truly suspicious of GOG is the name of one of the games on the list -- Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition. The reason I'm suspicious is because Larian has always been one of the most consumer-oriented devs I have had the pleasure of dealing with. They respond to criticism and requests for help in quite the opposite manner as GOG, which is to say, they are prompt, detailed, helpful and open. Further, the game in question does not have a separate publisher that could demand anything. Plus, all of Larian's games run DRM-free once installed via Steam as well.
I don't see where you're going with this, Galaxy isn't DRM. But then, I may misunderstand you. Could you please explain this apparent contradiction?

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Jemolk: This feels to me like they're simply putting the desires of corporate giants over and above the needs of customers and those with smaller market shares. This is exactly the thing that made me wary of Steam. Not simply DRM, but prioritizing corporate desires over human needs. It is an utterly toxic attitude and quickly kills my desire to throw money at a company.
Again, I can't follow you. GOG explained the choice with the demand of frontends like Galaxy by the average gamer and although I don't like these frontends myself, I can't dispute that honestly, since most of my Steam using friends stress its convenience. So, to me their move conforms exactly to the needs of many customers. Where do you take the "corporate giants" from?

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Jemolk: Further, I left Windows precisely because of predatory practices of this sort by Microsoft. Opt-out is the most moronic thing they could have come up with.
I also am a Linux user since late 2006 now, but I don't see any parallels about GOG and Microsoft. I concur that opt-in is the preferable way to go, but opt-out is not the worst they could do; making Galaxy mandatory would be.

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Jemolk: Suspicion is now necessary.
That may be the real quintessence of this whole discussion. Some people trust until they are proven wrong, others distrust at the slightest sign their trust could be wrong. I try to be one of the former, your statement above suggests to me that you might belong to the latter. I might be wrong of course, but I am willing to learn that later and keep my trust until then.

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Jemolk: In the end, it is simply another instance of something that has played out time and again in our society -- a company grows, and in come the greedy shareholders. They care nothing for the longevity of the company they are supposedly investing in, only for extracting the maximum amount of profit they can from it before it dies and they move on to the next victim. Wallet vampires that prey on naive companies just getting into the big leagues. Sad, really.
I think you're projecting too much into this. Let's wait and see.

edit: typo
Post edited May 16, 2017 by V4V
Posted May 16, 2017
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Klumpen0815: The DLC is incompatible with the single-player version and a 100% DRMed product, as if the DRM part of the base game wouldn't be bad enough.
Purely cosmetic DLCs for the multi-player game.
Posted May 16, 2017
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Klumpen0815: The DLC is incompatible with the single-player version and a 100% DRMed product, as if the DRM part of the base game wouldn't be bad enough.
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Gersen: Purely cosmetic DLCs for the multi-player game.
How is that relevant or falsifying my statement?
Posted May 16, 2017
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Tauto: Give it a rest people,you can't stop it from happening.
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PookaMustard: What's better is that it gives GOG a window for opportunity to outsmart Steam in this. Install to all computers with Galaxy, install to just this computer with Galaxy, download backup and install to default directory, download extras...all by going to their side. And if they improve their API, they can even allow third-party tools like gogrepo.py or similar to do the same, especially on mobile, thus allowing apps to be built for that functionality. Honestly it's value added to Galaxy, unlike this backlash.
Wait and see,for me.Hey! That rhymes with times.
Posted May 16, 2017
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Klumpen0815: How is that relevant or falsifying my statement?
You statement was that they were selling an always online DRM games, which is false, there is a DRM-free single player version of the game included with the purchase, the fact that there are some optional cosmetic DLC for the multiplayer part doesn't change that.
Posted May 16, 2017
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Klumpen0815: How is that relevant or falsifying my statement?
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Gersen: You statement was that they were selling an always online DRM games,
Do you even read what you quote?
Posted May 16, 2017
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Klumpen0815: Do you even read what you quote?
Well...

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Klumpen0815: Now there's always online DRM on GOG:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_gremlins_inc_dlc_84440
Posted May 16, 2017
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Klumpen0815: Do you even read what you quote?
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Gersen: Well...

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Klumpen0815: Now there's always online DRM on GOG:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/release_gremlins_inc_dlc_84440
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Gersen:
I take that as a "No".
Posted May 16, 2017
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Destro: ...
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Marioface5: This actually brings up an interesting idea: Rather than having Galaxy files included in installers, why not have the installers (with the ability to disable this) simply open up the Galaxy download page in a browser? No extra size, no need to manage two installers for those who don't want it, and even if the page opens without someone's consent, it won't download anything automatically. This would also allow GOG to make a more detailed pitch about Galaxy's features to new users.
That seems like a far better, smarter idea.
Posted May 16, 2017
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tfishell: That seems like a far better, smarter idea.
This thread is full of far better, smarter ideas than what GOG was/is planning
Post edited May 16, 2017 by adamhm
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